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Chad Sanborn
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I HATE balloon animals. I personally rarely make balloon animals. I see other people do it.



Its like... the kids want balloon animals... but in order to get one, they have to sit through some magic first. WHY>>>???? If itís the balloons they want, just make them and move on. Otherwise they see magic as the torture. A pain they must first endure to get what they want.



If a kid wantís a balloon animal from me, I say "You like ballon animals?" they of course say "yeahhh" so I give them some balloons and say "make em" The parents laugh. The kids look confused. Then start to whine a little. Then I say "ok..." and tie a knot in the end of the balloon. "Itís a worm". The parents again laugh and sometimes the kids chuckle.



If the kid persists, I say "look, are you paying for this meal?" "no..." they say. "Did you do anything to contribute to this meal.. drive here? cook? Pay for the gas?..." "nooo..." they say. "Then what gives you the right to complain about it?" The parents are usually hysterical at this point.



Then I usually ask the kid one more time,

"do you still want a balloon animal?"

they will sometimes say no... but usually its "yes" Then I take the íwormí and say "watch.... watch.... itís going to change... itís changing...." I bring out some scissors and cut off the ends "yes itís done. "What is it" they say, "a chameleon" I say. Many puzzled looks at this point. "It has just changed into a STRAW" I say as I drop it into the kids drink. The parents laugh hysterically again. The kids usually end up drinking through the balloon!!! kinda gross when you think about it..



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Hi Chad,



Please tell me you are kidding.... please. Sounds as if you hate your job. That sounds really cruel to me, honestly. Why in the world would you treat a child like that?



You are the one who said "Do you like balloon animals?" What is a child going to say? Yes.... of course yes. Same as if you said "Who likes candy?" I have worked a great many restaurants, family places and have never done a single balloon animal, and I have never been asked to do one.



If you do not like to do them, if you hate them, why in the world would you ask the children if they like them?



If you donít ask them then you would not have a problem and would not have to deal with them. From the beginning till the end of that "routine" you are teasing the child, if that is true and you think that is fun, then you are the wrong person for that job.



A balloon for a straw! The last place a latex balloon should be is in a childís mouth. Does the management know that you are suggesting to a child that they put a balloon in their mouth? Please rethink that.



Please forgive me, I do not mean to be negative nor do I mean to put you down in any way, but I have been entertaining children for three years and I was in shock when I read your post.



Did you know that it is illegal to give a latex balloon to a child under the age of three?



If you do not like balloon work, no problem. Donít do them, but donít take it out on the kids.



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Relax, John, Chad is just kidding.

You ARE kidding, aren't you, Chad? Smile

If not, I'd be REALLY interested in knowing what sort of places you work!

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I'm with you Peter, I hope it is a joke.
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Sounds like he's kidding John...I hope. Smile
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I'm with Chad on this one.



Yes.. I am joking Smile Smile Smile
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I really hope that you're kidding my man !! Smile



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man oh man!!!

It was only a joke. Several ideas from different sources came into play for that one. But all of them I have seen done to kids!!! Except the straw bit. That bit of genius was my own. But the asking about gas.. etc, came from what I saw a waiter do to a kid in a restaurant (Dicks last resort)

The worm joke came form Rick Thomas in Vegas.



But the original thought about kids wanting balloon animals and not magic is true! So why do magicians make them sit through it??

Just make the balloon and go. I have seen many performers do this.



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Children of the world are safe again!!!!!!!!!



Glad to hear you were just joking!!!!



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I donít do balloons myself. There are a couple of reasons for this--I donít have anything against doing them, particularly by the guys who are really good at it.

One reason I DONíT is because almost everyone else in my area does! They also do the same eight or ten tricks. I do almost exclusively my own material and Iím also a ventriloquist, so I have set myself apart. In fact, quite often, a prospective client asks me if I do balloon animals. When I say no, they respond "Thank God! Youíre hired!"



The other reason I choose not to do balloons is the liability issue. Some little tyke has a balloon pop and puts out his eye or chokes on it, and I am liable! so I donít do them. I am constantly amazed at the number of magicians, waiters, etc who give balloons to infants and toddlers. Not me, boy!



Funny story--

Thereís a guy in my area (HORRIBLE performer!) who does balloons at his ever-changing restaurant gig. This has actually happened a number of times--Iíve witnessed it once and been told about other very similar occasions. He walks up to the table and says, "Would you like a balloon sculpture?" The kid says yes and he explains that they can have a sword or a hat in red or green. The kids says, "A green hat!" And this guy says, "Well, Iíve already started a red sword!" And thatís what he gives the kid! I guess maybe heís going for an additional mind-reading effect that doesnít always work?!?!?!
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I have never done balloons strolling, but a friend of mine does and says that he almost always gets a tip at that table. For me it is more trouble than it is worth, I canít blow the darn things up. I do use them in the kid shows (and charge extra Smile ) but use a pump.



Glad it was a joke!



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While I do balloons and/or magic (I give 'em what they want!), there is a problem:

Many hospitals, etc. won't allow balloons or balloonists because of latex allergies. This is becoming more and more common, for some reason.

So -- at a recent convention in North Carolina, a couple of the guys had strands of beads (tiny ones, from craft shops, used for trim) and made little dogs out of the beads.

The finished product is about 3/4 of an inch long -- a Minnie Pearl Poodle (assuming you are using white beads).

I learned how to do this -- same twists as ballooning -- and customers just love it. It is ideal for restaurants, since you don't have to worry about the balloon popping and bits flying into someone's soup or (heaven forbid!) drink.

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Oragami frogs, roses and rabbits with cards and napkins are also a nice alternative that I use quite a bit.
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right on greatscott, very good alternatives !! Smile
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Is this something us newbies can expect when searching out our first gigs?

The expectation of making balloon animals?

:confused:



I mean, am I to spend years practicing, working on my presentation, mastering misdirection only to be confronted with,

"Can you make a balloon giraffe?"



This was more tongue Smile in cheek than not but is that a realistic expectation? Are you guys ever turned away because you canít twist the latex?
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Very good alternatives, indeed, scott.

There are several web pages that explain how to make a paper rose (out of a bar napkin).

So, instead of balloons, you can hand out origami frogs and pearl dogs to the kids and paper roses to the women.

Not too shabby! Smile

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Y&J-

I've never been turned down for a show because I don't do balloon animals, but yes, some people assume that all magicians do them. A number of magicians have suggested that you must, therefore, learn them, because "You always have to give them what they want!" I disagree. Some magicians also juggle; does that mean we all have to? Some also sing--should we all? Les Trix at the San Remo does magic topless, but I'm not going to.



Just as we all don't have to do the same effects, neither do we all have to do the same "variety" bits in addition to magic. If you want to do balloons or if you don't, that's your choice. Just make sure that what you do perform is very, very good, and the client will be happy!
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I hate to even admit to this, but I do know how to tie my share of balloons Smile,

but I have NEVER once taken them to the Wagonmaster Steak Co.

(The themed restaraunt where I work.)



I have used them before at a family restaraunt, and that was all I did.. there was not time for magic, and I was constantly interruppted by some 4 year old "Whenís my turn mister?" I learned, just like all things in life, there is a time and place for everything.



Use your head, and determine what you are trying to accomplish, magician -vs- balloonist! Smile

And yes I could almost always get tipped when I twisted balloons, but then I donít really work for tips, I work not to be a jerk!



Iím really glad the story at the top was just that a story!

Now I can breathe and laugh! Clever! Smile



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Remember the basic rules of MAGIC.



  • 1. Entertain First, Mystify Second

  • 2. Itís not what you like that matters.

  • 3. Give the client more for the buck!





If you can add balloons to your act, the more valuable of an entertainer you are. This also goes for juggling, and puppets and you donít have to be a ventriloquist.



The great thing about balloons, is there are so many site gags and funny bits of business that can be done. The humor will make your show an added plus!



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Remember the basic rules of MAGIC.



1. Entertain First, Mystify Second

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I have to disagree with you. This is the first rule to being an entertainer.



There are far too many out there who "entertain" people with "magic" that is un magical, un mystifying, and doesnít astound anyone. That is their prerogative, but it ainít magic. It gives magic a bad public image.



If anyone wishes to discuss this further I suggest we create a new topic, probably under the theory section.



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