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Smile Minions are the main thing, always have Minions
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It's actually really funny. My friends have made fun of me because of this character, as they do not consider him to be really "supervillain-worthy" and a bit boring. I suspect it is the lack of maniacal laughter and catchphrases... Not how I see him.

Sorry if this sounds rambly, but it has been one Hell of a day.


AHA! Now I know the archetype you seek....

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Yes but Funonions taste better Smile

Sacred what type of effects do you want to entertain with and will there be a theme?
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On Dec 1, 2014, SacredChao wrote:

It's actually really funny. My friends have made fun of me because of this character, as they do not consider him to be really "supervillain-worthy" and a bit boring. I suspect it is the lack of maniacal laughter and catchphrases... Not how I see him.

Sorry if this sounds rambly, but it has been one Hell of a day.


AHA! Now I know the archetype you seek....

"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
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Dr Spektor it is funny that you grabbed Lord of Illusions as I actually got to perform for Clive Barker and his VIP party at the premiere of it at Webster Hall in NYC (MGM wanted a magician for the party and found me)
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On Dec 2, 2014, Dr Spektor wrote:
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On Dec 1, 2014, SacredChao wrote:

It's actually really funny. My friends have made fun of me because of this character, as they do not consider him to be really "supervillain-worthy" and a bit boring. I suspect it is the lack of maniacal laughter and catchphrases... Not how I see him.

Sorry if this sounds rambly, but it has been one Hell of a day.


AHA! Now I know the archetype you seek....



Alright, I lol'd!

Bennigan's family restaurant will fear Professor Chaos! Smile
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Dr Spektor it is funny that you grabbed Lord of Illusions as I actually got to perform for Clive Barker and his VIP party at the premiere of it at Webster Hall in NYC (MGM wanted a magician for the party and found me)



funny or FATE? Smile - seriously, those characters would be great villains based on the theme of this thread

Cool that you got to meet Clive Barker - I love his work.
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There are great many compendiums in the role playing World which deal with this whole topic.
If you are looking for a minimum of realism go for a Rule System which depicts or can depict) normal humans.
Maybe the Steve Jackson Line GURPS will help you.
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Or pick Cthulhu RPG and look at the villains - scholars who lost their minds to the mythos
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Or consider the motivation of Dr. Horrible...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwJ7AnQTiYM
A super-villian will need a nemesis as well, yes-?
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I think the hard part of portraying the villain super or otherwise, is who is the hero. Without a defined hero to win I think the audience would leave unfulfilled. It's expected the hero wins, even in cases where the villain is liked more than the hero. At the end the story wouldn't feel right if the villain won.

Dr Horrible being one of those exceptions that proves the rule. And it works cause even though Dr Horrible is the Super-Villian they have him saving the cat and Captain Hammer kicking the dog. They spend the first act showing that Horrible is a good guy out to fix the world in his own way and that Hammer is an horse's arse. So that by the last act you know which is really the hero and which is the villain.

So if you are a villain in both word and deed then you need a hero to defeat you. You can't just have your machinations fail through you're own ineptness, that's not satisfactory in a narrative. I believe that once the audience believes that you are the villain, then on some level they expect you to be defeated by some hero.
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Better to be an antihero
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This thread led me to wonder. What if a super hero experimented to find a way to expand upon his powers, hrough the use of experimental
drugs.

The end result creating a compromised 'hero with a darker Mr. Hyde component he was not aware existed.
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So much good stuff has been said so far that I'm hard-pressed to add to it. It sounds like the "Character-Creation Process" is well in hand.

I think my only question at this point is: What is your venue? Through all the above, I'm not sure if you're busking, sitting at a table, standing on stage, etc. Each would have its own challenges and advantages to presenting the character, and the characters' premise. Is your venue the villain's lair (stage/parlor), or has your villain taken his madness out into the larger world (busking/walking)? Is he trying to sell his audience on his premise (like Dr. Frankenstein lecturing in an old-style medical auditorium), or are they his captives that he will bring around to The Truth, one way or another (like the doors have been "locked", and there's no way out of the auditorium)?

These are the questions that kept coming up in my mind over the last two pages. I hope they help.

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How about a subjective villain such as Fear Man, Hypocritical Woman, Procrastinator Boy. Waste time looking at Cat Videos Girl.

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