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GreenKnight33
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Hey Everyone,

Just wanted to post the very painful but interesting time I had practicing my routine in front of the camera. It wasn't close up with just hands and the close-up pad, but rather me standing, talking, and performing the three effects (Four Split - Aldo Colombini, Tipsy Turvy - RRTCM, and four phase ACR).

I've heard lots of advice to do this, but even though I've presented before for work loads and loads of times, this was the first time I saw myself 'presenting' in a way on video.

Definitely hard to watch but super helpful. For those who are noobs like me, I highly recommend doing this. A couple things I noticed right away:

1. My elbows seemed glued to my sides so even though I was making motions with my hands, shuffling etc, it had a very compressed, and protective appearance. Definitely said "I am hiding something, don't look too closely." So second video performance I kept my elbows away from my sides, and had a more 'open, nothing to see hear folks' appearance.
2. Most of my routine for shuffling is overhand, and I noticed that this as well was held high and away from the viewers...and very close to my body, again, as if protecting/hiding something. Second time around I put my hands further out and down, more relaxed etc.
3. Noticed that even as I was running through the patter, I didn't have the most outwardly happy expression. Now personally I don't like laugh a minute magicians and the magicians I look up to greatly are Paul Vigil, Armando Lucero, and Michael Vincent. So I'm working on how to be friendly and amiable without being silly.

Each time I did the video, I watched, took no more than three things to change, then tweaked and filmed again. I've rehearsed about 15 times, and video taped three so still much more to do, but really appreciate all the advice to do this.

Again, just a noob taking note of things, and encouraging anyone who hasn't to try this out, so really see what the audience sees.

Take care,
GreenKnight
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Good advice! So eye opening the first time you realize that actually you're not so much coming across as Derren Brown but as Tommy Cooper without the jokes. I daren't try it myself! I'm glad you're making progress though, keep up the good work.
GreenKnight33
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Ugh, and voice too! I sound much worse than I thought.
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I can relate to the voice thing, I sound so monotone on videos and the challenge I face all the time is trying to have emotion in my voice without it seeming contrived. Good to see your hard work GreenKnight33, it's an example to every new comer on here, keep it up mate.

Also how did your work mates receive your performance just out of interest?

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Hey Aus!

I'm performing Christmas day, so 10 more days to practice practice practice.

Thanks for your feedback on my script!
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It's great that you are doing this! It truly is the best way to learn about your quirks and make adjustments! Now try something else...
Go back and watch the whole thing again. Watch your eyes. Watch them every time you perform a sleight. Do you blink every time? This is known as the point of indication. Jeff McBride talks a bit about this in some of his videos. It's the point when you are performing a specific move, and you are trying to block it out as it's executed. By blinking your eyes, you are not only subconciously blocking that movement out of your mind, but you are telegraphing the fact that you are doing something fishy to your audience. Go ahead. Take a look. You just might surprise yourself!
Keep up the great work! Smile
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Its often a wake up call when we see ourselves as others see us. I would say that seeing a video of your performance is always a worthwhile thing, and if you really want to know what others think of your show, just lock yourself in the too!et after the show and listen. You will hear some interesting things !!!
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Thanks raging_onion for the tip. I still have all three clips so I'll watch closely. I hope I'm not doing that.
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Either way, it just takes time and repetition. At least we live an age where we can address instant replay Smile
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GreenKnight, Nobody likes the way they sound on video. The only person that will notice is you. The way you sound in your head, is completly different then the way others hear you. Once youve heard yourself on audio or video enough times, the more bearable it becomes.
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There's a Sci Show video on YouTube called "Does my voice really sound like that?"

It's a nice breakdown of why there's such a disconnect between what we think we sound like and others.

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