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Http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-30491435

I would ask why but I know why...

They want to please their deity. Smile
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An army-run school, with many children of military personnel, at that.
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Don't fret- just show empathy and compassion towards them and they will convert and not hurt anyone anymore.
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Don't fret- just show empathy and compassion towards them and they will convert and not hurt anyone anymore.


They did kill these murderers.

Not that that is any consolation. Smile
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The world is about back to square one, and all the effort until now is like the wind...
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The world is about back to square one, and all the effort until now is like the wind...


I do have hope it will get better.

If this doesn't galvanise the Pakistani government to wipe the Taliban off of the face of the earth, nothing will.
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Http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-30491435

I would ask why but I know why...

They want to please their deity. Smile

What religion were those killed?
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Http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-30491435

I would ask why but I know why...

They want to please their deity. Smile

What religion were those killed?


Islam.

So were the ones killed.
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Afghan Taliban condemns Pakistani Taliban

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/1......20141216

"The intentional killing of innocent people, children and women are against the basics of Islam and this criteria has to be considered by every Islamic party and government."
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On Dec 16, 2014, Pakar Ilusi wrote:
Http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-30491435

I would ask why but I know why...

They want to please their deity. Smile

What religion were those killed?


Islam.

So were the ones killed.

Reporting suggests that at least some of the children killed were Christian.

http://www.christiantoday.com/article/pe......4517.htm

"Speaking from Peshawar, about 190km West of Islamabad, the officer for the British Pakistani Christian Association (BPCA) confirmed that many children died in the violence, some of whom were Christians."
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To bad we did not have a terrorist to torture to prevent this. Or would that have been wrong in order to save these children?
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To bad we did not have a terrorist to torture to prevent this. Or would that have been wrong in order to save these children?


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Torture would lower yourself to their level...what's next ..You go kill their children?
I'm so sad this happened, but I'm even sadder that the media just lets it slide...
Still ... Less children killed than by US drone strikes......
Makes me think, think, think, think, .......

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To bad we did not have a terrorist to torture to prevent this. Or would that have been wrong in order to save these children?


If that was an attempt at humor, is was dismal and in poor taste. If it was supposed to make a point, it didn't. Nor did it even make any sense.
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To bad we did not have a terrorist to torture to prevent this. Or would that have been wrong in order to save these children?


If that was an attempt at humor, is was dismal and in poor taste. If it was supposed to make a point, it didn't. Nor did it even make any sense.


Definitely not an attempt at humor. But if we had a terrorist who knew of this impending attack and we knew there was some sort of attack planned and he was involved and had information to prevent this would you say that torturing him would not be the proper thing to do if it saved those children? That is exactly what I meant. Now tell me if my thoughts were correct or incorrect in saving those children. Is it more humane to let those children die or not torture one terrorist? I am not interested in your "maybes or what ifs" just answer the question. One terrorist or a hundred plus children? Oh wait...its a war crime. Oh wait it is a hundred plus innocent children. Do the math.
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But IF we had a terrorist and IF he knew of this impending attack and IF we knew there was some sort of attack planned and IF he was involved and IF he had information to prevent this would you say that torturing him would not be the proper thing to do IF it saved those children? ... Do the math.

Do the math? That string of IFs all being true is about as likely as a quantum computer being developed in the next hour, that runs on cheese.

If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas.
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Of course, the most likely thing is that even if we did have such a terrorist etc., the day or site of the attack would simply be postponed or changed by the remaining terrorists.
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Of course, the most likely thing is that even if we did have such a terrorist etc., the day or site of the attack would simply be postponed or changed by the remaining terrorists.



No the most likely thing is that we would save the lives of those children. What you are saying is that the terrorists believe that we would torture the individual and gather the info. But in the next breath you say that the info we would get from the terrorist is not good info...make up your mind.

You know that saving those children is the right thing to do as opposed to not torturing the terrorist but you are to stubborn to admit it. So you just make up excuses to let the children die by the hands of these people. Well your views and mine differ greatly. I vote for save the children or countless other innocents. You vote for the terrorist's rights. He gave them up when he became a terrorist.
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Of course, the most likely thing is that even if we did have such a terrorist etc., the day or site of the attack would simply be postponed or changed by the remaining terrorists.


No the most likely thing is that we would save the lives of those children. What you are saying is that the terrorists believe that we would torture the individual and gather the info. But in the next breath you say that the info we would get from the terrorist is not good info...make up your mind.

That's not what I said / meant at all. I was working with the assumptions you gave.

If a gang of bankrobbers plan a heist and one is captured by the police, do the other bankrobbers go ahead as planned or do they change plans?

Do the robbers believe the cops tortured the robber to get details of the heist?

Well, maybe you do.
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Does the promise of a reduced prison sentence incentivize committed terrorists to give up key information work as well as it does with bank robbers?
"Torture doesn't work" lol
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