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Balducci .. I wonder why you slag Rubio because he drinks water? I mean ..REALLY?...LOL
I see this splitting the Latino vote .. which if united could change the next presidential election. So it's a great way to divide and voters and allow the minority to gain more footage after taking a "Schelacking"(not my words) this year.

I like the idea of seeing my relatives, but the rulers of Cuba have done NOTHING to deserve a reprieve of sanctions ... So are we rewarding them for continuing in their communistic ways?
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Balducci .. I wonder why you slag Rubio because he drinks water? I mean ..REALLY?...LOL

I guess you missed this ... check the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWkjVvoXIS0

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Balducci ... I'm a performer .. In Florida.... I drink water all of the time... it's hot AND people who sing or speak often need extra hydration to keep their voices at 100% efficiency ......
It's a basic fact in performance... I can think of NOTHING as stupid as criticizing a person for taking a drink of water ..... REALLY???? ... ROTFLMAO

Enough of the sillyness .. Who's going to CUBA NOW!!!!!?????
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That's great, I just report the news. Stupid or not, Rubio took a lot of criticism for his SOTU drink. Fair or not, he is now known for it. I mean, he is about as well known for that to the average man in the street as for anything else he has done. So I simply used that to come up with a fun nickname, just as I used something about Cruz to give him one.
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Hmm... Life raft available?
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That's great, I just report the news. Stupid or not, Rubio took a lot of criticism for his SOTU drink. Fair or not, he is now known for it. I mean, he is about as well known for that to the average man in the street as for anything else he has done. So I simply used that to come up with a fun nickname, just as I used something about Cruz to give him one.

That's my point ... you criticize a man for taking a drink of water ... How low is that .. How insignificant! Is there anything else? .. Maybe he lied to 6 million people ... I can understand that ... But he took a drink of water ... REALLY?
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Slim, we are talking about two different things. It's not that he took a drink of water. It's where and how he went about doing it.

Back to Cuba ... anyone who goes, know that the water is perfectly safe to drink there, have no fear!
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Another great mistake by Obama. His ineptness is stunning.
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When the casino investment opportunities open up for Americans, I guarantee you the capitalists will all get on board. Nixon, China, 1972.
Nothing to do with ineptness. Marco Rubio has just effectively lost any chance at the Republican nomination for President.
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I would think Rubio has the insight to see better than any of us.
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He's toast.
http://www.commondreams.org/news/2014/12......elations

So where is all of this Cuban Money coming from? They are a poor nation. How will they buy Billions of dollars worth of US goods and services?
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The same place Vietnam and Bangladesh get their money. US investors will set up factories and exploit the workers and natural resources to make goods for export. Local agricultural economies will be trashed forcing Cuba to import food and pesticides. Large loans from the World Bank will be needed and never be paid off. In other words, the usual third world exploitation scenario. I hope I'm wrong.
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I can think of NOTHING as stupid as criticizing a person for taking a drink of water ..... REALLY???? ... ROTFLMAO



How about criticizing someone for wearing a tan suit?

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I would think Rubio has the insight to see better than any of us.


Even more than Rand Paul?

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I grew up in a family that despised, not only communism, but collectivism, socialism and any “ism” that deprived the individual of his or her natural rights.

As a kid, I listened to the stories of an old Ukrainian fisherman who talked of fighting the Bolsheviks. More times than I can remember, I’ve heard horror stories of those who fled Castro’s Cuba. I ran for office to fight for the individual and against statism of any kind anywhere and yet… I think a policy of isolationism toward Cuba is misplaced and hasn’t worked.

I support engagement, diplomacy, and trade with Cuba, China, Vietnam, and many countries with less than stellar human rights records, because I believe that once enslaved people taste freedom and see the products of capitalism they will become hungry for freedom themselves.

President George W. Bush wrote that “trade creates the habits of freedom,” and trade provides the seeds of freedom that begin “to create the expectations of democracy.” Once trade begins it is hard to hide the amazing products of capitalism. The Soviets used to produce documentaries depicting poverty in America but it backfired when Russian viewers noticed that even in the poorest of circumstances you could still see televisions flickering in the windows. Once trade is enhanced with Cuba, it will be impossible to hide the bounty that freedom provides.

The supporters of the embargo against Cuba speak with heated passion but fall strangely silent when asked how trade with Cuba is so different than trade with Russia or China or Vietnam.

It is an inconsistent and incoherent position to support trade with other communist countries, but not communist Cuba.

Even the supporters of the embargo agree that it has not worked. A policy of isolationism with Cuba and engagement with China and Vietnam does not make any sense. Communism can’t survive the captivating allure of capitalism. Let’s overwhelm the Castro regime with iPhones, iPads, American cars, and American ingenuity.


for the rest of the article...
http://time.com/3642353/rand-paul-cuba-r......-get-it/



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For years, Rubio misled people about when and why his parents left Cuba. Rubio knew what he was saying for years, and how it sounded. See article links below. I find it odd that his family never corrected him.

AFAIK, Rubio has never been in Cuba himself. He has little or no first hand knowledge of Cuba.

So it seems to me that Rubio's expertise about Cuba is all second hand, much of it coming from groups of people who were / are interested in maintaining anti-Castro fervor. This has to affect his insight into the topic of Cuba, and makes me wonder if it is as good as some think.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/m......age.html

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/10/24/......nds-lie/
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Slim, we are talking about two different things. It's not that he took a drink of water. It's where and how he went about doing it.

Back to Cuba ... anyone who goes, know that the water is perfectly safe to drink there, have no fear!


I don't agree with Slim often but I have to ask what was wrong with stopping to take a drink of water?
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I don't agree with Slim often but I have to ask what was wrong with stopping to take a drink of water?

As I said before, it's not that he took a drink of water. It's where and how he went about doing it.

You saw the video clip? You didn't find his performance at least little bit awkward? That's fine, but many did.

The incident made the news for several days. It was fodder on late night talk shows. It was awkward enough that it received world wide coverage, and forced Rubio to address it multiple times. E.g. see:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics.......1269211

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/polit......1916275/

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/jon-stew......ter-gate

http://www.cnet.com/news/poland-spring-b......ter-101/
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Meh. Not a Rubio fan, but let's stick to real issues.
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