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Dominic Reyes
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I was at the lecture when it was recorded. I think you will be suprised at how open he was to many of the questions. Well worth watching and also a good insight from his manager Dan Albion about the hard work and time that goes into creating an 'over night success'. Useful information and tips about ways to CREATE the situations that lead to a 'lucky' big break.

He also discussed what he says when people ask him to perform the phone in bottle live. Really good open answers and valuable advice about transitioning magic to a TV show and the challenges and compromises that makes you face.

Highly recommended viewing!

Hope this helps
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Thanks for the review. I think I will pass on this lecture. Doesn't seem to be for me as I perform for real people and have no desire to do what he does. I'm sure he is a good person, but his style of magic is not my cup of tea.
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I will give this a skip for sure!

So tired of Dynamo, Criss Angel, Troy, Close up kings and all the other C$#p stooged magic shows on Discovery!

When will we see "real" classic magic again, this is becoming like sci fi movies!
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Why the assumption that TV magic is all Dynamo can do? He was a very successful performer before he got his tv show. For real people.

I think it will be well worth the asking price.
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Isn't Daniel Garcia part of his production team? Smile
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How creative can he be if he relies on stooges even when performing real tricks created by other magicians? Maybe I can ask what makes him creative.

What makes him creative is spending money to hire consultants to create for him so he doesn't have to.

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So tired of Dynamo, Criss Angel, Troy, Close up kings and all the other C$#p stooged magic shows on Discovery!

When will we see "real" classic magic again, this is becoming like sci fi movies!


I agree. At least Wizard Wars and Fool us, like them or not, has magicians performing live for an audience on a stage again.
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I hear what some of you are saying but, I'm a penguin Live subscriber and I choose to watch it....don't care if it's taped, live or mimed....when it starts, I'm watching...you can too, or not.
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Whilst Dynamo may not have a lot to say about presentation or even creating original effects he may well have a lot to say about the business side. Sure you could probably create that show with any kid off the street, but in all likelihood the TV company didn't just decide to take some kid off the street Dynamo almost certainly had to knock on the right doors and say the right things.

Whatever you think of the show, Dynamo has done a lot of things right to get into a position where he can rely on creative consultants, stooges, post production and any of the other things that we may or may not like about the show. The reality is that in his very short career he has earned more and made a bigger name for himself than many of us who have been in this business since long before Stephen Frayne was born.

So whilst he may not have much to teach many of us about magic and presentation, he may very well have a fair bit to say about maximising the opportunities that are out there and even be able to give upcoming performers an insight into the price of fame.

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Whilst Dynamo may not have a lot to say about presentation or even creating original effects he may well have a lot to say about the business side. Sure you could probably create that show with any kid off the street, but in all likelihood the TV company didn't just decide to take some kid off the street Dynamo almost certainly had to knock on the right doors and say the right things.

Whatever you think of the show, Dynamo has done a lot of things right to get into a position where he can rely on creative consultants, stooges, post production and any of the other things that we may or may not like about the show. The reality is that in his very short career he has earned more and made a bigger name for himself than many of us who have been in this business since long before Stephen Frayne was born.

So whilst he may not have much to teach many of us about magic and presentation, he may very well have a fair bit to say about maximising the opportunities that are out there and even be able to give upcoming performers an insight into the price of fame.

Mark

Well said Mark,bang on the money as they say.
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Thanks for the review. I think I will pass on this lecture. Doesn't seem to be for me as I perform for real people and have no desire to do what he does. I'm sure he is a good person, but his style of magic is not my cup of tea.


OK Danny - I think we have sort of got that Dynamo is not your cup of tea.
No need to keep labouring the point unless you have another agenda?
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On Dec 19, 2014, Danny Kazam wrote:
Thanks for the review. I think I will pass on this lecture. Doesn't seem to be for me as I perform for real people and have no desire to do what he does. I'm sure he is a good person, but his style of magic is not my cup of tea.


OK Danny - I think we have sort of got that Dynamo is not your cup of tea.
No need to keep labouring the point unless you have another agenda?


Okay, thanks. I was getting exhausted. Smile

Merry Christmas.
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I love how if a magician can't world out a trick they instantly say 'stooge' 'stooge'.
That means the consultant team are doing a good job.
I don't want to reveal how they do it, but there is a lot more work put in then you think, like the ash and ember trick there are no stooges, just a lot of hard work! Smile
I for one will defiantly be watching his lecture, he's got a massive following of laymen that love his style of magic so he's doing something right! Also, I'm hoping he may talk about how he'd moving from the street to the stage.
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It's because some of us will recognize the trick being performed, know full well what the conditions are to perform it, if it uses a gimmick or special something, Ash and Ember is just one example. Pulling a skateboard out of his backpack is another example of not just the use of stooges, but clever editing. It well know that he uses stooges, and all that other stuff. The question isn't if he does or not, but if it should be respected like all other magic.
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Just recently his levitation over some London building was exposed with the wires showing. His lame excuse only made it worse.
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Haha generally when people are calling stooge its becausethey do know how its done. My favourite was after a girl had been given a shopping bag containing the items needed for the effect, Dynamo asked "What have you got in the bag" and she replied "I haven't a clue".

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On Dec 21, 2014, Danny Kazam wrote:
Just recently his levitation over some London building was exposed with the wires showing. His lame excuse only made it worse.


How is that any different to a close up magician using IT to levitate a playing card?

Tricks are tricks, they all use one method or another...
Isn't it the entertainment that counts?
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It's a stupid example to mention dynamo getting busted using wires above the shard, that's a real method.

That said, he does regularly use "friendlies" and camera editing to achieve these tricks.
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Stooges are an interesting argument. So magicians should always work alone? Has this always been the case through history, or a modern norm made popular by the rise of individual close up magic?

Editing: why does a TV show need to follow the same rules as a live performance? A theatre show doesn't need to play by the same rules as a movie? They are different products and very different situations. A TV show has to create its own version of 'misdirection' and 'duel reality' how are they any more misleading than the psychology and control of attention used in a live performance?

Dynamo's lecture: I think the real value in this is the advice about marketing youself. There are valuable lessons in this lecture from someone who mastered it. He doesn't go into his tricks, that's not important. You already have your tricks and act, why care about his? Your own magic amazes your live audience, just as much as his does on TV. A smaller live experience is more personal and just as astounding. We can and should learn about hard work and commitment to success as a magician, and the process of PR. Valuable stuff
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Let's say a stage mentalist used stooges as much as as Dynamo, and Criss Angel. Sure they would pull it off for awhile, but eventually stooges start talking and word gets out. Now laymen would never trust another mentalist show no matter if it's a mentalist who never uses stooges. They will conclude that he used stooges regardless if he didn't. It wouldn't just hurt the mentalist who got caught, but more than likely many of them.
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On Dec 22, 2014, Danny Kazam wrote:
Let's say a stage mentalist used stooges as much as as Dynamo, and Criss Angel. Sure they would pull it off for awhile, but eventually stooges start talking and word gets out.



So by that token, how many Dynamo stooges have you heard about spilling their beans?

I've never heard of any.
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