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Tim Cavendish Inner circle 1404 Posts |
For folks who were seeking it, "Shadow People" starts at 1:27:47.
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
It really is quite simple. If you can't take criticism, don't charge people for your products or your performances.
To start whining about harsh reviews is the true sign of an amateur mentality. If you feel you are professional enough to charge people $30 each for an online lecture you should be professional enough to take any criticism that comes your way without childish talk of "bias". As for those threatening to leave the Café and throwing personal insults around at people who have offered an opinion - you remind me of those overwrought teenage 'Twilight' fans who infect imdb. If you can't take your "real" effects being criticised maybe you would feel better off on a psychic readers site where I'm sure they will uncritically discuss how to make money from fooling vulnerable people. I haven't seen this lecture yet, but I'm looking forward to watching it this weekend and giving a full, honest review. |
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
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On Jan 22, 2015, Martin Pulman wrote: no point in discussing it on a psychic reader's site/forum, because the answer there is always intuition/psychic ability - this is about faking something that may or may not exist...or rather, reframing natural yet little know natural phenomena to fit within a performance... if its about the ethics of it all, then that belongs in the right or wrong section of the forum I believe... martin - you will not enjoy the lecture!
I've asked to be banned
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
A lot of very hefty claims have been made on the Café for the "real" thing. I'm very much looking forward to viewing an exponent of it in action.
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One Eyed Jack New user East Sussex, United Kingdom 44 Posts |
What exactly is the real thing? Surely that is subjective.
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
I am using the term "real" thing to refer to those who claim that some/all of their effects are achieved by some form of supernatural agency rather than human agency.
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Jeff Wassom Elite user 493 Posts |
Martin the 'real things' I was referring to were the leverage and anatomical principles, and even a dream sequence that didn't work for me, but worked for others. Worth a try in any case IMO, because payoff is a miracle.
Are these 'very hefty claims?' Either way the magic is in the person, not the effect, so not claiming this lecture will do anything for anyone. =) |
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
Jeff, I haven't watched the lecture yet but if the techniques you refer to are some sort of physical principle, like a 'Georgia magnet' effect, I very much look forward to learning them.
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Bill Cushman Inner circle Florida 2876 Posts |
Martin, I was going to disagree with Iain and state that I think you may indeed enjoy at least parts of Bill's lecture. Now I am less sure as it is more about the "sacred deception" than it is about the real thing. And, more about the con than the real thing as I believe you mean by the term. I'm sincerely interested in how you'll find it.
I get both sides of this coin. Bill could have been more at ease and better prepared but he definitely taught some valuable information. And it is certainly one of the most unique lectures I've ever seen in more ways than I can get into at the moment. Definitely a bird's eye view into some very edgy and controversial practices that I'm still sorting out. |
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The Hermit Veteran user 301 Posts |
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On Jan 21, 2015, RobertMarsi wrote: Don't let the door hit you ..... This guy charged for a lecture. I and everyone who paid has a right to express their opinion. If I was lecturing, I would make sure my first effect (bottle nickel)worked. When you look at all the other lectures, this one failed big time on professionalism. His stuff may be good, I didn't see the greatness. But that's just me. |
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
Bill, I have no idea what a "sacred deception" is, but I'm looking forward to finding out!
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
How do I get it for $10?
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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Jeff Wassom Elite user 493 Posts |
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On Jan 22, 2015, Martin Pulman wrote: Those types! I think Montana is brilliant at applying these principles in mental/magical/mystical settings. Really a lot to think about conceptually. |
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shakuni Inner circle 1170 Posts |
@Slim King
Subscribe to Penguin Lectures. This will get you 4/5 lectures for $49. |
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
Not to be divergent, but it seems I should avoid the Derren brown interview when I pick my 5?
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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Amirá Inner circle MentalismCenter.com 5131 Posts |
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On Jan 22, 2015, Martin Pulman wrote: Hi Martin, check Alejandro Jodorowsky work Best
Pablo
Performer and Author Mentalism Center: The best online space to get quality Mentalism www.mentalismcenter.com Arkanosophy: The Boutique for Mystery Performers www.arkanosophy.com |
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Michael Zarek Special user Sweden 923 Posts |
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On Jan 22, 2015, Slim King wrote: As far as I know you only get the next five lecture's from the moment you subscibe, so no picking anything.
Reader discretion is advised.
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One Eyed Jack New user East Sussex, United Kingdom 44 Posts |
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On Jan 22, 2015, Martin Pulman wrote: I can show you for only $200 |
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Tim Cavendish Inner circle 1404 Posts |
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On Jan 22, 2015, Michael Zarek wrote: Buying options: $24.95 - Buy a single lecture BEFORE it is shown. $29.95 - Buy a single lecture AFTER it is shown. $49.95 - Buy ALL the upcoming lectures shown in the next 30 days (4 or 5 lectures, depending on your timing). $99.00 - Buy ANY FIVE older lectures (but new lectures only added twice/year, midsummer and Dec). |
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
Thanks for the information. So it's $30 for a one off right now.
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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