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Let us now consider prophecies of Nostradamus, the French prophet Michel de Nostredame ... Nostradamus lived from 1503 to 1566 in France, and he wrote a book of ...............
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The current use of the Muslim Brotherhood by the CIA to wage guerrilla warfare in various countries, will and has generate a ferocious blowback. On top of this blow back comes from the more legit wars. Let us now consider prophecies of the CIA assessment prediction: The blowback could be longer and more powerful than that from Afghanistan. Foreign volunteers fighting U.S. troops in Iraq today will find new targets around the world after the war ends.

Blow back, it means unforeseen consequences, even though the CIA foresee it in the land of the blind.
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Tommy, at last we are in 100% agreement. Smile
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When the Arab Spring started it was reported that thousands of the cellphones (Accounts) used to amp up and direct the surge of violence were from the US.
Is this thing in France an extension of that movement?
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I found this interesting .. The getaway driver TURNS HIMSELF IN.. Ever hear of a Muslim terrorist turning themselves in? He has an iron clad alibi... AND the guy investigating the biggest case of his career KILLS HIMSELF.... (WHAT???)
Why didn't we hear THIS on our TV sets?
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives......se-flag/

And the terrorists left their ID's in the getaway car????? REALLY?

In addition the MARCH photo was staged... It was a photo op ... THEY DIDN'T MARCH!
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On Jan 14, 2015, Slim King wrote:
I found this interesting .. The getaway driver TURNS HIMSELF IN.. Ever hear of a Muslim terrorist turning themselves in? He has an iron clad alibi... AND the guy investigating the biggest case of his career KILLS HIMSELF.... (WHAT???)
Why didn't we hear THIS on our TV sets?
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives......se-flag/

It was widely reported when it was news. And I posted about the fellow turning himself in, and the found ID, on the first page of this thread, about a week ago. Try paying attention, is all I can recommend to you.

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http://www.straitstimes.com/news/world/e......oting-so

PARIS (AFP) - An 18-year-old implicated alongside two brothers in the bloody attack against a satirical weekly in Paris has surrendered to the police, according to a source close to the case.

"Hamyd Mourad handed himself in to police... on Wednesday at 11pm after seeing his name circulating on social media," the source told AFP. "He has been arrested and taken into custody," another source confirmed.

Media reports identified the three suspects as Said Kouachi, 34, Cherif Kouachi, 32, and Hamyd Mourad, 18. A police source said one of them had been identified by his identity card which had been left in the getaway car.
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I stopped reading most of your arrogant pronouncements a while ago so I can see where Slim may have missed it.
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Why is this no longer news? Would the police have hunted him down like the others and shot him too? This proves to me how the news media can be 100% wrong. And the police too???? How do you make such a mistake?
Since the media has egg on their faces the story gets killed and we may never know WHY this happened.
WHY would the officer in charge kill himself?
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Had these 12 people been fully armed I'm positive that they would have stopped the terrorists in their tracks, just as ONE old man in Florida stopped TWO would be killers in the casino.

I'm pretty sure that if my daughter had been there (God Forbid) she would have taken out at least one of them herself. She is an excellent shot and I'm pretty sure she may have gotten them both ..Case closed.

Even if the 12 victims were poor shots, at odds of 6 to 1, I'm positive they would have dispatched the terrorists all by themselves. This would have saved all of the others who were subsequently murdered by these Jihadists.

Logic is a great thing!!!!!!

You agree they have the right to defend themselves ...Correct?????

There will be more assaults and those that are armed will fare much better than those who aren't ... It's a fact!



Well when a bunch of gun enthusiast in Texas tried to re-enact the shooting it didn't go too well. Even armed they all still died.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/01/14/......s-video/


So being armed doesn't seem to help out all that much in situations like these.
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On Jan 11, 2015, Slim King wrote:

Had these 12 people been fully armed I'm positive that they would have stopped the terrorists in their tracks, just as ONE old man in Florida stopped TWO would be killers in the casino.

I'm pretty sure that if my daughter had been there (God Forbid) she would have taken out at least one of them herself. She is an excellent shot and I'm pretty sure she may have gotten them both ..Case closed.

Even if the 12 victims were poor shots, at odds of 6 to 1, I'm positive they would have dispatched the terrorists all by themselves. This would have saved all of the others who were subsequently murdered by these Jihadists.

Logic is a great thing!!!!!!

You agree they have the right to defend themselves ...Correct?????

There will be more assaults and those that are armed will fare much better than those who aren't ... It's a fact!



Well when a bunch of gun enthusiast in Texas tried to re-enact the shooting it didn't go too well. Even armed they all still died.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/01/14/......s-video/


So being armed doesn't seem to help out all that much in situations like these.


thanks, nice to know.
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Well, that video and news report pretty well blows Slim's theory out of the water.
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On Jan 11, 2015, Slim King wrote:

Had these 12 people been fully armed I'm positive that they would have stopped the terrorists in their tracks, just as ONE old man in Florida stopped TWO would be killers in the casino.

I'm pretty sure that if my daughter had been there (God Forbid) she would have taken out at least one of them herself. She is an excellent shot and I'm pretty sure she may have gotten them both ..Case closed.

Even if the 12 victims were poor shots, at odds of 6 to 1, I'm positive they would have dispatched the terrorists all by themselves. This would have saved all of the others who were subsequently murdered by these Jihadists.

Logic is a great thing!!!!!!

You agree they have the right to defend themselves ...Correct?????

There will be more assaults and those that are armed will fare much better than those who aren't ... It's a fact!



Well when a bunch of gun enthusiast in Texas tried to re-enact the shooting it didn't go too well. Even armed they all still died.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/01/14/......s-video/


So being armed doesn't seem to help out all that much in situations like these.

Did you even read your own propaganda? ROTFLMAO SATIRE AT IT'S BEST...
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Slim, try reading the article again.

Related video here:

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2015/01/13/gun-o......assacre/
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Did you even read your own propaganda? ROTFLMAO SATIRE AT IT'S BEST...



Why yes, I did. but clearly you didn't. or reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. Smile

So just for you I'll post the article here. I'll type slow so you're sure to understand it Smile

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Occasionally, stupid people whose love of weapons transcends their sense enjoy attempting to justify a belief that the world would be virtually immune to crime if only we furnished every man, woman, and child with a firearm.

“An armed society is a polite society,” hordes of ammosexuals loudly proclaim, ignoring that drivers who carry guns are 44% more likely to make obscene gestures at other motorists and a frightening 77 percent to follow aggressively than unarmed individuals.

Not a single mass shooting has been stopped by an armed civilian in 30 years, but right-wing blasturbation club The Truth About Guns decided to play “Charlie Hebdo” on Tuesday in an effort to show that an “armed civilian” would have stopped two heavily-armed terrorists and saved lives.

The experiment was a massive flop. The group did, indeed, gather the requested number of volunteers. Unfortunately for them, that was the most successful part of the adventure.



“He started shooting,” said volunteer Linda Cruz, “and I started shooting, and I died.”

Volunteers gathered on a set that was made to look like the offices of the satirical French magazine that became the target of a terrorist attack after it reprinted cartoons that depicted the Prophet Mohammed. Armed with a paintball gun, the volunteers took turns playing the role of a heroic “good guy with a gun” in the office.

Also armed with paintball guns were two “terrorists” who appeared to execute the infidels in the scenario. The “gunmen” were professionals from tactical training company “Patriot Protection.”

Over and over, the armed civilian was “killed,” along with those “gun rights” advocates claim he or she would have protected. In only two cases was the “good guy” able to remove even one of the gunmen from the scenario.

Only once did the “armed civilian survive” — when she ran away at the first sound of “gunfire.”

“Still got killed but did better than I thought I would,” said volunteer Parks Matthew. He says that watching everyone around him “die” has shown that he should not protect his children if he encounters a shooter in a movie theater — Matthew will ensure that they emerge from the situation fatherless, instead:

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If I’m in a movie theater and someone pulls a gun, what am I going to do? I know now I’m not gonna just fall on my kids and protect them, I need to advance on the threat.


Of the twelve simulations, not a single one involved the volunteers finding themselves able to kill both shooters.

Strangely, The Truth About Guns has not provided followers with an update.

Watch a news report on the exercise, below:



Here's a less partisan version of the story from an actual news site.

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PLANO (CBSDFW.COM) – A group called The Truth About Guns organized a simulation of last week’s terrorist attack in Paris. They hoped to learn how things may have played out differently at Charlie Hebdo, or any other mass shooting.

“It’s the one people are Monday morning quarterbacking at the moment,” said group member Nick Leghorn. “It’s interesting to see how people react under stress. It’s not what you’d expect people do.”

Volunteers took turns on a set designed to look like the offices of the French satirical weekly magazine. But unlike the terrorist attack that killed 12 people, volunteers played the role of armed civilian.

“He started shooting – and I started shooting,” said volunteer Linda Cruz.

Time and time again, the armed civilian “dies” – shot by a round that marks him or her with paint.
In only two cases volunteers were able to take out one of two gunmen in the process.

“Still got killed but did better than I thought I would,” said father of four, Parks Matthew. He was curious to see what protective instincts may kick in.

“If I’m in a movie theater and someone pulls a gun, what am I going to do? I know now I’m not gonna just fall on my kids and protect them, I need to advance on the threat,” said Matthew.



Oh. and a report from The Daily mail in Merry Old England

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-......cre.html

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Texas pro-gun group re-enact Paris attacks - this time with an armed victim... but still nobody is able to prevent the massacre
•Gun group created set replicating inside of Charlie Hebdo's offices

•Dozen armed volunteers took it in turns to be attacked by two men
•Two killed a single attacker, while nine died without injuring either
•Only one female volunteer survived after running from the building

By Chris Pleasance for MailOnline

Published: 09:47 EST, 14 January 2015 |Updated: 13:24 EST, 14 January 2015

A group of Texas gun owners have attempted to recreate last week's attacks on the Charlie Hebdo offices to see what would happen if one of the murdered journalists had a gun.

A dozen volunteers each took turns to participate in the simulation on a set designed to replicate the offices of the French magazine. The volunteers were armed with a handgun firing bullets made of paint.

Just one volunteer managed to survive after fleeing the building, two victims managed to take out a single gunman before being killed, while nine people died without injuring either of the attackers.


Armed: A dozen volunteers took it in turns to be attacked while armed with a handgun and sitting on a set resembling the offices of Paris magazine Charlie Hebdo

Breaking in: The 12 were each attacked by two men with automatic rifles. Only one survived after fleeing the building, two managed to kill one of the attackers, and nine died without injuring either of them

The exercise was organised in Plano by pro-gun campaign group The Truth About Guns.

Volunteers sat in a crowded room mimicking the morning conference at Charlie Hebdo magazine where jihadi brothers Said and Cherif Kouachi shot nine of the staff.

The volunteers in Plano were asked to sit around for a random length of time, before two men armed with automatic rifles comparable to the terrorists' weapons entered the building.

The pair, who had a similar level of training to that showed by the Kouachi brothers, were asked to make a small noise on their way in to give the volunteers a chance to prepare.

From that point the drama unfolded without a script, with all parties firing marker rounds filled with paint to reveal which people were hit.

Truth About Guns member Nick Leghorn told CBS Local: 'It’s interesting to see how people react under stress. It’s not what you’d expect people do.'

Of the 12 people to participate, nine were killed in the office without managing to take out either of the attackers, just as the scenario played out with the unarmed journalists in Paris.

Only one female volunteer managed to survive the simulation by running from the set, leaving both of the attackers unharmed.

Two of the volunteers managed to take out a single gunman, as footage captured by CBSDWF.com shows.

However, none of the participants were able to stop the massacre by taking out both attackers.

The Kouachi brothers killed 12 people, including three police officers, when they attacked the offices of Charlie Hebdo in Paris a week ago today.

Over the course of the next 48 hours the pair were pursued across northern France before being cornered and killed in a print works just north of Paris as they tried to return to the capital.

The publication was targeted for its history of publishing cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed, a gesture considered highly offensive to some Muslims.

Today the first issue of the magazine to be produced since the attacks, featuring another cartoon of Mohammed on the front page, sold out in France within hours of going on sale.

Its usual print-run of 60,000 has been increased to almost five million in the wake of the attacks, which prompted solidarity marches around the world.



So what part of this don't you understand?
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On Jan 11, 2015, Slim King wrote:

Had these 12 people been fully armed I'm positive that they would have stopped the terrorists in their tracks, just as ONE old man in Florida stopped TWO would be killers in the casino.

I'm pretty sure that if my daughter had been there (God Forbid) she would have taken out at least one of them herself. She is an excellent shot and I'm pretty sure she may have gotten them both ..Case closed.

Even if the 12 victims were poor shots, at odds of 6 to 1, I'm positive they would have dispatched the terrorists all by themselves. This would have saved all of the others who were subsequently murdered by these Jihadists.

Logic is a great thing!!!!!!

You agree they have the right to defend themselves ...Correct?????

There will be more assaults and those that are armed will fare much better than those who aren't ... It's a fact!



Well when a bunch of gun enthusiast in Texas tried to re-enact the shooting it didn't go too well. Even armed they all still died.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/01/14/......s-video/


So being armed doesn't seem to help out all that much in situations like these.


Well- I would rather take my chances with the quote "ALL THAT MUCH" rather than if no one was armed to "NOT AT ALL".
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Re-read your article .. They were outnumbered two to one .. They could easily kill people one at a time .... They never made it 12 to 2 ...ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Even being outnumbered the untrained killed them a couple of times. Most people who are armed know how to use their weapon ... Not some joker given a paint ball gun then attacked by two trained gunmen .. SO FUNNY!!!!!

I'm off to the ECSS..see you guys there!!!
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Why is this even a gun debate? Fact is they were not armed. That is the reality.

Pretending if this then that helps nobody. This was very bad people looking to do very bad things.

It is easy to say yep armed people will win the day. Well not necessarily.

These were military grade weapons against concealed hand guns? Guess who will win every time? This stuff happens SO FAST you can not imagine. Plus the bad guys had a plan! They knew what they were doing. Just hoping you can shoot back is in no way a guarantee of stopping them. Don't forget when you draw a weapon you become target number one.

If you have never been in a hot situation then often best not to comment. You look silly.

I am not saying one way or the other on the guns. France has their laws and that is the way life is. I think we need to respect that. All the Monday morning quarterbacking will not help anything.
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When have we ever let facts get in the way Danny??

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Why is this even a gun debate? Fact is they were not armed. That is the reality.

Pretending if this then that helps nobody. This was very bad people looking to do very bad things.

It is easy to say yep armed people will win the day. Well not necessarily.

These were military grade weapons against concealed hand guns? Guess who will win every time? This stuff happens SO FAST you can not imagine. Plus the bad guys had a plan! They knew what they were doing. Just hoping you can shoot back is in no way a guarantee of stopping them. Don't forget when you draw a weapon you become target number one.

If you have never been in a hot situation then often best not to comment. You look silly.

I am not saying one way or the other on the guns. France has their laws and that is the way life is. I think we need to respect that. All the Monday morning quarterbacking will not help anything.


Exactly! And those who have never owned a gun and know nothing about them will keep on posting silly/unrealistic comments.
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