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On Feb 9, 2015, TonyB2009 wrote:
Can't wait for this to hit Ireland.


Try - watchtvlinks.sx. - it's there, along with practically everything else.

Full episodes stream on AMCTV.com (though that may not be available in the UK - there were US sites I couldn't access when I lived there.)
These other streaming sites, while they look fine, are stealing content - and therefore taking money out of my pocket (I write for television so it's a hot button issue for me.)

As for Saul - I'm sold. Love it. I can't wait for tonight's episode.
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I really enjoyed the kast episode that showed us how Saul worked as a con man in Chicago when he was still Slippin' Jimmy. I thought the billboard escapade was hilarious, as well as Jimmy's wardrobe purchase.

Looks like this show will be just as successful as its predecessor.
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Turns out netflix is on my tablet, so I will be able to catch up. Looking forward to it.
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I think you'll like it a lot, Tony. Jimmy McGill, after all, is a fine Irish name. Smile

Again, one of the things I love about the show is that I actually knew a lot of lawyers who were just like Saul. (You can even see a lot of them advertising regularly on TV, on billboards and on bus stop benches- particularly in Las Vegas.)
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Tonight's episode, which focused entirely on Mike Ehrentraut's back story, hit it out of the park. It has to have been one of the bests episodes of dramatic television I've seen.
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Jonathan Banks is swinging a very heavy bat, acting wise that is.
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The show is really picking up steam. (Not that it didn't have a great start!)

It made me think. The writing is sooooo much better than 90% of the dreck that's on TV. Why can't more of it be this good? In another thread, people talk about how much they like Arrow or The Flash. I'm a comic book fan and should like those but to me, the quality in writing is night and day and just makes those un-watchable. (Not to pick on those two but they are the ones that I 'wish' had this kind of writing.)


Don't forget who those are being written for as opposed to who this is written for. It is the difference in reading the newspaper vs a novel. Gotta learn to manage your expectations a bit LOL!
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I think bringing in the back stories of charterers we already know and probably want to know more about is brilliant. I already know and like Mike. Why not tell me more about him and how he became Mike? Brilliant. Same with Tuco and Gus and Gale and on and on. What a way to do things. A way of "discovery" even though you already know the outcome! I loved Apollo 13 yet knew the ending. I watch WWII movies but the ending is a bit spoiled as are movies about George Washington.

To see WHY these people developed into "who" they are is something that can be FANTASTIC story telling as is fairly evident in the Mike episode.

For me this is a MUCH tougher way to do things. Writing when people know the ending and making it compelling is far more difficult. Andrew may be better equipped to speak about it than I. But I do not see it as lazy or relying on Breaking Bad at all. No more than someone relied on history books to write Apollo 13.

This means "great television" is no longer an oxymoron.
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For me this is a MUCH tougher way to do things. Writing when people know the ending and making it compelling is far more difficult.


Like performing a classic trick and making it good.
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I think it's interesting that the best episode so far had extremely limited screen time by the title character.
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I t thnk the title is meaningless and a simple vehicle for great story telling.
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Maybe. I remember Trudeau once observing that there was a point where Doonesbury stopped being the central character in his comic strip of the same name. Personally, I think Mike (Ehrmantraut, not Doonesbury) is a far more interesting character then Saul. Regardless, I am enjoying the series so far.
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Can anyone refresh my memory as to whom, exactly, Saul is hiding from? The Albuquerque bad guys who had ties to him are dead (Walt, Mike, Gus, the NM arm of the cartel, Mike's prison guys, the Neo-Nazis). Saul is no idiot and would follow the activities in ABQ. Hank and Gomez were pretty much lone wolves, and Saul was not really on the radar of most other law enforcement (that I can recall). I must be missing something but I don't see the reason he's in hiding. Is he afraid of Jesse? Do you suppose "Better Call Saul" will revisit the current Saul any more?
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Saul had good reason to flee as he was Walt and Jesse's accomplice and frequent bagman. He also directly helped them set up the last meth lab and got Todd to help.

The entire DEA was closing in on Walt when Saul decided to change his identity and run.
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He would have no idea who was still investigating or not. That we know doesn't mean the character knows. That is reason enough.
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So was everyone satisfied with the season finale? I was kinda hoping for a cliffhanger, but it is starting to clarify their personal philosophies.
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Very satisfied. It's fitting that the season ended with Jimmy effectively becoming Saul.
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I liked it a lot. Either you like it or not. Sort of a take it or leave it dealio. I happened to like it quite a bit. The whole "I am NEVER going to let that get in the way again" was brilliant.

Sort of made me remember the first season of Breaking bad when Jessie said "When you need a "criminal attorney" you want a "CRIMINAL" attorney! It is what put the "CRIMINAL" in Saul.
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What's brilliant about the character is that we can understand why he became Saul and, to a large extent, are able to sympathize with him.
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Everyone hasn't screwed him yet, but Mike is certainly demonstrating that he can be trusted and is more dependable than even his own family. It's not just us viewers who are learning about them; they are learning about one another.

I don't agree that it's an all-or-nothing thing. As I said, I would have welcomed a cliffhanger, but I was not DIS-satisfied.
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