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Zlwin Chew Elite user Malaysian Magician with 437 Posts 
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Hi guys. For two years I have performed and worked with Richard Osterlind's Breakthrough Card System. He said in his book that this is more than a stack.
I personally loved it and it has served me well in getting recogniction as a real wizard haha. I wanted to know if there is anyone out there who is using this too and what is your take on it? Thanks, friends! |
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minty Elite user Rugby, Warwickshire 423 Posts
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I always carry a deck in BCS order on me. Throw in some false shuffles and his effects are direct and hard-hitting.
If you like the BCS, and aren't already familiar with the performances of Chan Canasta, you might want to search for videos of him. |
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Zlwin Chew Elite user Malaysian Magician with 437 Posts
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Hi Minty,
I have seen a video of Chan Canasta on the EMC series once. But that was about it. I will go and look for more now. Can the BCS be used with Canasta's card reading acts? |
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george1953 Inner circle Mallorca (Spain) 5942 Posts
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I don't do a lot of card stuff but I am just learning the BCS just so I can do Richards card calling routine. I think its an easy system to learn.
By failing to prepare, we are preparing to fail.
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minty Elite user Rugby, Warwickshire 423 Posts
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On Feb 15, 2015, Zlwin Chew wrote: You can certainly achieve a very similar effect using the BCS. Richard Osterlind's Card Calling routine (as George says) is wonderful. I also love the routine Richard calls "Corinda Effect", which is given just a sentence or two in 13 Steps, but which he really fleshes out in Mind Mysteries 2. It's wonderfully simple and direct. For me, it was well worth the short amount of time needed to learn Osterlind's BCS. |
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lcwright1964 Special user Toronto 569 Posts
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Great system, but I have to admit that once I finally memorized a stack--I picked Mnemonica--I haven't looked back. Any on Richard's best BCS effects can be done with a memorized stack too.
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JanForster Inner circle Germany ... when not traveling... 4246 Posts
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You said it... Studied it some time ago just for interest, but never used it as I am working with a memorized deck since more than twenty years. Jan
Jan Forster
www.janforster.de |
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Zlwin Chew Elite user Malaysian Magician with 437 Posts
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On Feb 15, 2015, george1953 wrote: I enjoy doing his card calling routine so much. Audience really love it as well. And my FAVOURITE effect with the BCS is the Poker Deal routine! This BLOWS people away! If you are using it to play a BLACKJACK game, here's a beautiful hint: if you are dealing 4 piles (4 players including you as the dealer), and if the audience cuts to an 8 of Hearts... you are in for the win. Because this way, all three players will amount to 21 (Blackjack) and you the dealer will have 20. There were countless times (I thank the heavens) when the spectator cut to the 8 of Hearts. And I would be screaming inside. My magician friend who does this routine too will be nudging me from the side and smiling. And I nod. Then I start by saying, "I have a premonition that in this round, all three of you players will have the best cards and might be winning. And I, the dealer, will be short of only 1 value... I don't know but that's just a premonition. Let's begin." If you don't know what I am talking about, learn the Poker Deal routine, then cut to the 8 of Hearts. And play the Blackjack game with 3 players and you as the dealer (4 piles). I am excited to hear about your experience =) |
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Zlwin Chew Elite user Malaysian Magician with 437 Posts
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On Feb 15, 2015, minty wrote: Thank you, Minty. I will definitely check it out! =D |
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Zlwin Chew Elite user Malaysian Magician with 437 Posts
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On Feb 16, 2015, lcwright1964 wrote: lcwright1964, I have not learnt the Mnemonica but I would give it a study soon. Thank you for your input. |
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drumorgan.png "View Profile"){kind=avatar} New user 64 Posts
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I have recently learned (still trying to get faster) the BCS from Osterlind. I love it. But, is there a reason to learn more than one stack? Do some do what others won't do? My first stack was the Si Stebbins, and it was great, but the BCS adds the look and feel of randomness, so I'm sticking with this one and learning to routine around it.
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Kabbalah Inner circle 1621 Posts
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On Feb 17, 2015, drumorgan wrote: No. Yes.
"Long may magicians fascinate and continue to be fascinated by the mystery potential in a pack of cards."
~Cliff Green "The greatest tricks ever performed are not done at all. The audience simply think they see them." ~ John Northern Hilliard |
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drumorgan New user 64 Posts
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 Thanks.
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J-L Sparrow Regular user 168 Posts
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On Feb 16, 2015, Zlwin Chew wrote: I must not be doing something right, Zlwin, because if I use a BCS stack and cut it so that the Eight of Hearts is at the bottom, then deal eight cards (from the top of the deck) into four piles (the last pile being the dealer's), the second and fourth pile each have a 21 (with an Ace and a face card). Since the fourth pile (which has an Ace and a King) is the dealer's pile, he automatically wins with no need to hit. If the first player hits twice, then his two extra cards will bring his total up to 21. As for the third player, he starts with 16, and if he hits he'll get a 7 card, which makes him bust at 23. So when I try it, the first, second, and fourth players each get 21, with the third player either staying at 16 or pushing his luck and busting at 23. Either way, the dealer (the fourth player) wins and the third player loses. But you said that the first three players win with 21, while the dealer loses with 20. Am I missing something? |
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Wenzelo New user 48 Posts
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Why is it "more than just a stack"?
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Wenzelo New user 48 Posts
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Why is it "more than just a stack"?
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J-L Sparrow Regular user 168 Posts
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On Feb 14, 2015, Zlwin Chew wrote: I fell in love with with Richard Osterlind's Breakthrough Card System when I first encountered it, and have really enjoyed performing Osterlind's Test Condition Card Trick. I like the BCS so much that I eventually decided to memorize it and made it my main memorized deck. So now the BCS has become the MBCS (Memorized BCS) for me. |
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The_MetalMaster Veteran user Indiana 344 Posts
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On Feb 20, 2015, J-L Sparrow wrote: that is a great idea. my mem deck is the best utility I think I have! good for you to take the time to memorize Richard's system. what effects do you mostly perform with the BCS mem deck? |
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george1953 Inner circle Mallorca (Spain) 5942 Posts
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This is the system I am memorising at the moment, I really like it.
By failing to prepare, we are preparing to fail.
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Jerry Inner circle Some where in Florida 1437 Posts
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Which is better, BCS, Radar or Dynamo Deck?
I have BCS, Radar, but not Dynamo. Isn't Dynamo an significant improvement? I have search this forum on Dynamo, and very little has been written on this topic. Enough has not been discuss to convince me that the Dynamo Deck stands out above the early decks by Osterlind. Sounds like it just should have been a booklet of more routines for BCS/Radar. Now, if I can just find my Cassandra deck. |
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