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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Brà th 3640 Posts |
No.
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Alex DLF Inner circle 1992 Posts |
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On Feb 25, 2015, Sean Giles wrote: No, the card is not gimmicked but you have to be able to do a pretty decent MCF. (Or using a scored card and in this case you will have to force it).
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Jon Allen V.I.P. England 1771 Posts |
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On Feb 25, 2015, Jamie Ferguson wrote: Says who?
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Saturn UK Inner circle 2658 Posts |
I'm going to score the whole deck, Perfect Score is the perfect tool for this, those that have Paragon or 3Sixty will understand why.
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Jon Allen V.I.P. England 1771 Posts |
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On Feb 25, 2015, Alex DLF wrote: With every Card to Box of this nature, you need to do a pretty decent MCF. If the card in the box is folded into a perfect rectangle and yours is more like a huge rhombus, you're not going to fool anyone into thinking its the same card. Forcing a card is pretty easy. Personally, I do a Sl*p C*t Force.
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Alex DLF Inner circle 1992 Posts |
Yup I agree Jon But due to the nature of the particular method used in Paragon, I think the MCF will play into the method if I could say that.
The MCF does not play a role as big as in Paragon in every other box on the market. The MCF doesn't have to be perfect in order to make the other boxes work while in Paragon, if it's not decent, method won't work as well as if it was. (If I say too much there, please tell me or delete my post). It's not a bad thing at all, don't think I'm trying to put you down, I'm just telling the truth. Personally, I don't care forcing a card.
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MagicDamo Regular user 148 Posts |
Jon, will you be providing the extra bits in the later packages to the people who purchased the Blackpool version?
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Jon Allen V.I.P. England 1771 Posts |
Alex, there is always a trade off with every product. Those who know me know I never use the word 'ultimate'
IF you do a pretty decent MCF, you can do Paragon. Maybe not as absolutely flawlessly as if you can do a perfect one or even a pretty *** good one... but the illusion is still there and the handling I describe in the instructions help you too. MagicDamo, the extra bits will be available to buy in a pack for those who bought this Blackpool release. They can be found elsewhere and are not vital to the workings so the choice is up to the buyer. The extra pieces will add some cost so the final retail price will be slightly more so the early buyers are not losing out.
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Brà th 3640 Posts |
Nice upsell to the early adopters
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Jon Allen V.I.P. England 1771 Posts |
Thank you Jamie.
I've thought about it and thanks to you I have got what I think will be a win/win situation for everyone! I need some time to Work on it but I reckon it's doable.
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Sean Giles Inner circle Cambridge/ UK 3517 Posts |
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On Feb 25, 2015, TheBentos wrote: Cool mate. Thanks for being honest! |
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Sean Giles Inner circle Cambridge/ UK 3517 Posts |
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On Feb 25, 2015, Saturn UK wrote: Thanks Mark. Anyone know if a prediction could be used instead of a card? I would think so... |
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Brà th 3640 Posts |
Yes.
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Saturn UK Inner circle 2658 Posts |
An idea I would like to share.
We only have 3Sixty in stock but it does now come with access to the Paragon explanation. I made up my gimmick but decided to use a 1p coin instead of the material Jon uses. This has resulted in a thicker than normal gimmick which I think does add that bit more depth and feeling to the gimmick and obviously does not look as flat as the standard. I also used tape to make it and made sure the edges are not sealed completly flat together again giving a bit of an open feel, the tape is not visible due to how shiny the box is. I've also just made one using a card scored with Perfect Score which obviously looks like a folded up card because that is what it is. I had to trim the edge a bit but it to looks and works fine. Both work like a dream.
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Brà th 3640 Posts |
Thanks Mark
Though I wonder if this type of discussion would be better downstairs?
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rowland Inner circle 1524 Posts |
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On Feb 26, 2015, Jamie Ferguson wrote: I agree, I have some questions about what Mark has done but don't want to post on here |
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Brà th 3640 Posts |
Rowland, Mark, see you in secret sessions. I'll start a thread there now...
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Saturn UK Inner circle 2658 Posts |
I have been vague enough I think but we will go downstairs to discuss further.
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simplymagicweb Inner circle Norfolk, UK 1410 Posts |
Having checked with Jon before posting, Jon has allowed me to mention that Secret Servante could be utilised in conjunction with Paragon to aid in the "latter stages" of the routine. To conclude with a totally examinable box, signed selection and empty hands is aan awesome proposition 😄
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Brà th 3640 Posts |
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On Feb 27, 2015, simplymagicweb wrote: Let's not forget that's what Wayne's original delivered, without having to ditch anything from the hand
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