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Seethings Elite user 435 Posts |
What is your definition of Hypnosis? It seems to me that it is merely an illusion created by the hypnotist and the audience.
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Mindpro Eternal Order 10587 Posts |
That would be a magician's definition.
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quicknotist Special user 888 Posts |
The mechanism through which a person is led to a subjective experience marked by the perception that their normally voluntary actions are manifesting involuntarily and through the influence of external stimuli.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
A show that pays for my mustang and my pool.
I have idea why people insist on doing this nonsense.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Mindpro Eternal Order 10587 Posts |
LOL! That's the real definition.
The answer to your question....to get their post count up. Digging up old, posts and making trivial comments has been happening all week. Cassidy and others have brought this up in several other sections. |
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TonyB2009 Inner circle 5006 Posts |
Danny's definition is the one I would like to use, aside from the fact that a pool does not work in our climate.
What's your definition of a deck of cards? Of a puppet? Does it matter in even the smallest way?
Check out Tony's new thriller Dead or Alive http://www.amazon.co.uk/Alive-Varrick-Bo......n+carson
http://www.PartyMagic.ie |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Look at Tony and I agreeing all and stuff!
I think that sums it up perfectly Tony. Thank you for putting it that way.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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quicknotist Special user 888 Posts |
I'm still happy to stand by my definition.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Tony is right. How does that definition help in the slightest way?
I am not saying you are right or wrong mind you. It is just that way too often these things do more harm than good. Tony and I can have a wonderful discussion about the performance of a show and all that is needed without clouding the issue unnecessarily. Since the subject of the reality of hypnosis is banned as well as pointless I think it is a wonderful way to have a discussion without being burdened by subjective definitions that we never get past. This way we learn from Tony and his personal experience without dismissing it because of a difference of opinion about a definition. Just my thought. Not wanting you to necessarily agree. Just laying it out.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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TonyB2009 Inner circle 5006 Posts |
Danny, funny to be agreeing. But at least we usually disagree agreeably. I too would love to see more discussion of performance. More stories from the trenches.
Check out Tony's new thriller Dead or Alive http://www.amazon.co.uk/Alive-Varrick-Bo......n+carson
http://www.PartyMagic.ie |
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Mindpro Eternal Order 10587 Posts |
Yeah I must say, me too. Seems like those working would rather push products or their training events that performance and business-related content.
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quicknotist Special user 888 Posts |
Feel free to tell each other stories from the trenches, but I can tell you, as long as nobody is coming here to ask questions and those who do try to start discussions are ignored or belittled, you'll just be talking to each other.
I really believe a major attitude and culture change are the only things which can save this section of the forum. |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
What are you talking about?
The rules specifically state not to discuss the reality of hypnosis. Simple. You don't like it then talk to the owner. This is for performance. Again if that is a problem take it up with management. You should define what you mean by save. If by that you mean a great place to hawk crap to newbies we have a different understanding of the term.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Mindpro Eternal Order 10587 Posts |
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On Feb 28, 2015, quicknotist wrote: I don't think anyone is being ignored or belittled. Please don't confuse giving them proper and practical advice, along with the rules and policies of the forum as being "belittled." It is a performance board for entertainers, not clinical, hypnotherapy or to discuss what hypnosis is and isn't and particular beliefs, but to discuss performing and the business of performing hypnosis. Trying to introduce newcomers to the ins and outs of the community should be welcoming and inviting. Perhaps part of the problem is that many aren't coming here doing so, but rather using this to try to replace proper learning, studying and understanding hypnosis. This or of course the plethora of kids looking for shortcuts because they saw a youtube video and think it's cool. Again, enlightening them to the ways of the community is the proper thing to do. If they understand this and choose to still participate then we know of their true interests. This is how it's always been. Of course the street hypnosis kids have made many of the other working pros leave due to frustration and some here that only have fueled their fire. It is this that has always caused the divide. |
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mindpunisher Inner circle 6132 Posts |
I think its quiet here simply because everything has been said that has any real value and hypnosis has sort of went out of fashion again with the young street merchants... And went out of fashion in general with magicians wanting wanting to learn.
Which is not a bad thing in my opinion. But I see Keith Barry has a new TV series starting soon using hypnotized subjects at a prime time tv slot. " Back in the room" so it might drum up some interest. I think the show will be pretty lame though but we shall see. |
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Mindpro Eternal Order 10587 Posts |
I agree and too am glad the trend has slowed and the bandwagon seemed to have switched to mentalism. Keith Berry's hypnosis was never that strong or good as far as I've seen. Certain U.S. markets are still strong, but the boom seems to have slowed overall.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
I have found the opposite. But I have never followed or been affected by booms in popularity.
But these things have happened for a LOOOONNNG time. Nothing new. It will have another group of young eager performers wanting to jump in. Always has always will.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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TonyB2009 Inner circle 5006 Posts |
I was not aware of Keith's new show. I am a fan of his, but this show does not sound like something I will be glued to. Still, we might get some shows on the back of it.
Check out Tony's new thriller Dead or Alive http://www.amazon.co.uk/Alive-Varrick-Bo......n+carson
http://www.PartyMagic.ie |
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mindpunisher Inner circle 6132 Posts |
Apparently its an audience participation quiz type show but they are all hypnotized. It will either drum up interest or kill it all together!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oru6_f4GxEc |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Sounds like disaster from jump.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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