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NYCTwister Loyal user 267 Posts |
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On Mar 4, 2015, TonyB2009 wrote: Now that's balls. Of course we have to protect kids but to go to extremes sometimes hurts them more. I find it interesting that Landmark and I, who are both from NYC and should be paranoid nervous wrecks, both think there is nothing wrong with it. None of this changes the fact that he ruling was BS.
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Ian McColl Inner circle 1493 Posts |
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On Mar 4, 2015, TomBoleware wrote: Humans should need a license to breed.
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Jack Straw Inner circle Wichita 1020 Posts |
Two words:
Etan Patz
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
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On Mar 4, 2015, TonyB2009 wrote: What would the story read like had he not come back?
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NYCTwister Loyal user 267 Posts |
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On Mar 4, 2015, Jack Straw wrote: Definately a tragedy, and also an exception to the rule. So what's the age where it isn't neglect?
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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts |
Maybe it is not neglect. However it is bad judgment. I mean a 10 year old and a 7 year old left in a park together a mile from home for hours. First off they do not have that much in common because of their age difference. AS such I do not feel that the 10 year old will watch dilegently after the 7 year old especially if some kids of his own age show up and they start to mingle. At 10 I can see him being that far away from home, but not watching and caring for a 7 year old at the same time.
What were they doing at the park? How long were they there? How long have they been doing this? Did it start when they were 10 and 7 or have they been doing this for awhile now, like 8 and 4? It is fortnate that nothing happened, and for that we should all be grateful. but it sure is taking an unnecessary risk with your kids of that age. Just as an addendum Tony letting his 5 year old wander the woods for 2 hours alone is not neglect it is, well you know.
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NYCTwister Loyal user 267 Posts |
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On Mar 4, 2015, acesover wrote Actually, I don't know. What was it?
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
FWIW, I walked to and from elementary school every day from the time I was eight. I also rode the subway by myself at age ten into Manhattan from Brooklyn, about an hour's ride. I would think it should be up to the parents, not the State, how much independence a family wishes to give a child. I guess I'm surprised that some who call themselves conservative and dislike govt interference, have a problem with this.
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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts |
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On Mar 4, 2015, NYCTwister wrote: You asked for it. Stupidity.
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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts |
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On Mar 4, 2015, landmark wrote: Please forgive me about your subway ride...but did you have on just your underwear? I could not resist. Well I walked to and from grade school when I was 6. It was 3 blocks in a small town off the main drag. How far did you have to walk and what sort of location? Of course that was 60 plus years ago. No matter what one says...times were different. However I still agree that there were predators back then just not as prevalent as today. The world has changed. Some people today do not let their children go buy candy alone at the movies if they are 5, 6, 7, or older. There comes a time when the children have to learn to function on their own. I don't think it is at 5 years old or even 10. They have to be able to recognize danger signs and know what to do and also be able to do it in order to prevent incidents that we all will regret later and say, If I only...
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
We live in a new world gentlemen.
Allow your children to do whatever you like at their own peril. For it is they who will pay the bill for your stupidity. I am not saying where the line is. No time or distance quantification on my part. But it is a mistake you only get to make once. If you are willing to gamble with those odds it is on you. Well it is on them as well but they are not supposed to be the adults. Middle class fear mongering and name calling aside. If you don't think the world is a dangerous place cool. Here is something from my not so dangerous part of the world. http://www.news-leader.com/story/news/cr......3881673/ Let me guess John. Everyone should just move?
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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts |
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On Mar 4, 2015, Dannydoyle wrote: Exactly... This guy looks really scarey.
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Ian McColl Inner circle 1493 Posts |
The world is no more dangerous than 50 years ago, 100 or 1000. We now, know more and quickly.
Like terrorism, if you live in fear, then it's a win for the bad guys. Teach children wisely and they will be able to do their best. Life is a numbers game, some win some lose. This unfortunately kid hadn’t even left the house. http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/melbou......tcn.html
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
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Allow your children to do whatever you like at their own peril. For it is they who will pay the bill for your stupidity. Look, I can see both sides of it. Different circumstances require different ways of handling things. But in the end, I feel it has to be the parents who make the call, not the State.
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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts |
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On Mar 4, 2015, Ian McColl wrote: Your example has no merit whatsoever to the discussion. If you truly believe this to be true: The world is no more dangerous than 50 years ago, 100 or 1000. I feel you and I have nothing further to discuss. I do agree with the statement: We now, know more and quickly. But how this makes the world a more or less dangerous place is beyond me. The acceptance of the decline of morals in of itself makes the world a more dangerous place than it was. While that statement may take the topic off topic it is my opinion. Let me add a few other items that are not my opinion but rather fact. North Korea, Iran, Nukes, Radical Muslim Terrorists who have the backing of their religion but not necessarily the whole Muslim population, but you are talking a billion plus Muslims (Muslim makeup almost 25% of the world population), Oil Dependency, obviously the Middle East, which no more is confined to just the Middle East, but rather world wide repercussions. One may argue that all of these threats were there throughout the ages in different forms. However the world has never been in a more dangerous position of being destroyed by so many so easily put in motion. However many argue that child abuse and child molestation has declined. While others say it has risen. As I have said in the past. Figures lie and liars figure. One can make stats say whatever they want. As you pointed out the news does get around quickly today. More so than ever before which gives rise to the possible idea that sex crimes and child molestation are more prevalent than ever before. Reason being sensationalism sells newspapers and generates ratings.
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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts |
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On Mar 4, 2015, landmark wrote: While I understand what you are saying I do not want to hear as a defense in a courtroom. He came from a bad family and his environment made him what he is today. So understand he killed the store clerk and stole the money from the register because he had a bad childhood so I ask for mercy. Find him innocent but find the system guilty.
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TomBoleware Inner circle Hattiesburg, Ms 3163 Posts |
We live in a different world today for sure.
Just a few short years ago it wasn’t that often that we would hear about a teacher finding drugs in a childs backpack or hear about a baby eating a bag of cocaine. Children are abused or neglected today more than ever and it’s not just in the poverty areas. If you ask me, lazy parenting is the cause of most of our problems today. There is a difference in allowing children to think on their own and forcing them to do it. Kids grow up much to fast nowadays. Childhoods are getting shorter and shorter. Tom
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Tom yes.
Danny Doyle
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
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On Mar 4, 2015, landmark wrote: You do notice how we agree don't you? Also it is odd to see you advocate the state not being involved in something.
Danny Doyle
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Ian McColl Inner circle 1493 Posts |
What are your discussions going solve today? tomorrow? next year?? NOTHING
I know good parents and I know drop-kick parents, who frankly should even have kids.
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