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Scott Horn
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I want to create a 2 can set for a chop cup routine using the little 6 oz Coke cans. One can will be a sealed "solid" can. So the first question is, is it OK to just use an unopend soda can, or should I drain the contents and replace with some solid material? The other can will be emptied, "top" removed, and "chopped." The question here is what is the best way to chop the can. I would guess I would take another can and make a clean cut of just the bottom as a disk to create a false bottom. Any recommendations on (1) the best adhesive to secure the m***t and the false bottom? I want the sound to be "right." Second, any recommendations on how to cosmetically "seal" up the edge around the false bottom so a casual look will not see a gap or seam?
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Magic Inc. in Chicago, use to sell Chop beer cans and soda cans back in the 1970's, never seen one so can't tell you what they did or how they looked.

To answer your questions, I would say no to all of them, especially when you put conditions like "I want them to sound right". If you do anything to an empty can it will not sound right. Although the ultra cans they make to day are so flimsy that the can will not keep it shape at all. They actually use to make beer and soda cans out of tin, and then moved to a heavy gage aluminum. Today, they are just to thin to do anything with. They make them so thin to reduce on transportation costs.

I guess you can experiment all you want and see if you can come up with something that will pass muster for you. Trying to work on the inside would be a difficult challenge that is for sure. They sell glues I putty form, you might consider those, they can be shaped somewhat.

The final load is easy, as you have to of course open the can to prove it is full, so just pass out a sealed full coke can each time. They do not handle the chop coke can, so there is not need to compare.

Did you read Paul Harris's VanCamp's Beanee Weenee chop cup can routine in his book with a sealed VanCamp's Beanee Weenee can of franks and beans. I use to do it and it is a real fuller. No switch necessary. Great routine and handling as well. It is one of his hard bound books. I don't see why you could convert to a coke can off the top of my head without going back and digging it out.
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To be honest, it's easier to remove & re-seal the top. Removing the top perfectly is done by simply leaving the can in a freezer. I kid you not! The frozen contents will swell & remove the entire top in an almost perfect circle. This leaves a near ideal surface for re-sealing...with carefully applied, clear silicone sealant. If you go down this route, place the can in a freezer bag to 'catch' the frozen contents.
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When I leave a can in the freezer I get an exploded can and frozen soda all over the inside of my freezer.
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Nice & easy does it Smile A really cold fridge, & placing the can against the rear does the same job. It'll take the top off like it was laser cut Smile
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I have run a box cutter knife around the top edge of a can and cut it off. Right up where it meets the top of the can under the small ledge formed by the top of the can. If you run the knife around with moderate pressure about twenty or so times it will come off.
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I should perhaps add, that in Europe at least, the cans are so thin they're almost foil...so any expansion of fluid makes seperation a lot easier.
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I should add with my method above that it's best done outside in old clothes. Once a hole appears in the can its liable to squirt you.
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Thanks all. Yes, I do have Plans Harris Beanie Weenie, and also a routine from a Carl Andrews lecture.... that was my I
inspiration. I just like the idea of a mini Coke can rather than fruit or vegetables.
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I've done these...if you're removing the top, use a bench grinder and slowly grind away the rim part of the can. It's actually a fold, all you have to remove is that bend at the top. It only takes a few seconds and it leaves a very clean edge.
The bottom is done the same way, but it takes longer and can get tricky.

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One more thing.....it's easier to just use a PK r**g, than to chop the can.

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You could also pour fiberglass resin liquid in the can and keep turning it until it coats the inside evenly and dries enough to hold it's own. You can purchase it at most any hardware store. This will make the can stronger and more durable.

If you place a magnet on the bottom, place a false bottom cut out of another can, and then pour resin in, it might come out pretty nice.

Let us know how it goes.

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That's a great idea....I usually line the can with aluminum flashing which is a pain.
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