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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts 
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As he lay dying Mr Harris could be heard on the video screaming: "Oh, God. Oh, he shot me; I didn't do s---."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew......ect.html
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It is going to continue happening until the guns are taken away (from all sides). A civilized society does not rule from behind the barrel of a gun. Also, cops need to know that shooting people (especially black people) has consequences. We need to see cops getting jail time for these murders.
If cops aren't prosecuted then inevitably people will take the law into their own hands, and the cops will become targets. It is already happening. Its a very sad situation.
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts
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It is practically turning into a witch-hunt against white cops.
I mean, the reserve sheriff's deputy in Oklahoma even apologised: "Oh, I shot him. I'm sorry." Yet they are still charging him with manslaughter. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/04/13/okl......testnews Go figure. (Actually, from what I've read I do feel sorry for the deputy. These reserve deputies are permitted to carry firearms but have far less training than regular officers, and it sounds like he was in over his head.)
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On Apr 13, 2015, TonyB2009 wrote: Just curious...why especially black people? Do you men to imply they won't get in as much trouble if they shoot white people? I really think unjustified shootings are bad no matter the race. Again just asking. It is not a bad question or racist question. I just want to know what you mean and why.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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Yes with more training he could have shot him six times and strangled him.
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On Apr 13, 2015, TonyB2009 wrote: Wow. |
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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts
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On Apr 13, 2015, TonyB2009 wrote: When was your last visit to a psychiatrist? 
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On Apr 13, 2015, acesover wrote: I to am curious as to why just black people???
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funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9987 Posts
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You can't blame the poor reserve deputy.
On most officer's belt the pistol in on one side and the tazer on the other -- not close to each other. It is easy to get confused when the objects to be grabbed are only a foot apart and they weigh several pounds differently and have a different color. Guess he missed kindergarden training too. Amazing that he hit the guy with so little training. Guess he didn't miss that part. Just kidding of course. If I planned on running from an illegal operation I'd learn dodge and roll tactics. Dundee could have this guy with a can of beans.
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funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9987 Posts
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On further thought why don't perps wear clothing that blends in with the background.
It's their fault! If you plan to escape across the grass, wear green clothing. If planning to dash up a sidewalk, wear grey. That way only innocent bystanders will get shot. You know the old saying, "If you have a gun your have to shoot something."
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Mr. Mystoffelees Inner circle I haven't changed anyone's opinion in 3623 Posts
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You need more precise topic verbiage, Tommy- "America's latest police shooting" is too much a moving target, so to speak...
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rowdymagi5 Inner circle Virginia 3624 Posts
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On Apr 13, 2015, TonyB2009 wrote: "Especially black people"......sounds like you are placing less value on any race other than black? Also, since the beginning of time we have not been a civilized society and it will never happen. I am sure the cavemen wanted to disarm other cavemen the right to own rocks and sharp sticks |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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TonyB2009 Inner circle 5006 Posts
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On Apr 13, 2015, acesover wrote: Cops should be in trouble for shooting anyone, irrespective of race. That should be obvious to all. I specifically mentioned black people, because we all know there is a racist element to these incidents. Black men are far more likely to be shot by police than any other demographic. That is the reality. And shooting of black people has historically provoked far less outrage than shooting of whites, until recently. Now at least we all appreciate that black lives matter, but that is a recent development. Eighty years ago cops attended lynchings in the south. Fifty years ago they covered up and didn't investigate murders of black civil rights leaders. Things are improving, but there is a long way to go. That is why I mentioned blacks specifically.
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Which lynchings did "they attend?
You use pronouns that if you replaced them with a race or gender you would call yourself a racist.
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts
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Actually, it was common for the entire white population of a municipality to turn out for lynchings, including the police and high ranking public officials. And lynching was far more common that in sometimes thought:
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TonyB2009 Inner circle 5006 Posts
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Danny, you know well that cops attended lynchings often. In Waco, Texas, in 1916 there were several cops in attendance when Jessie Washington was burned to death.
When Thomas Shipp and Abram Smith were lynched in Indiana in 1930 the local cops helped out. Thankfully those days are over, but pretending they didn't happen makes no sense.
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On Apr 14, 2015, TonyB2009 wrote: Except, of course, that it is not the reality... "In 2012, according to the CDC, 140 blacks were killed by police. That same year 386 whites were killed by police. Over the 13-year period from 1999 to 2011, the CDC reports that 2,151 whites were killed by cops -- and 1,130 blacks were killed by cops. Police shootings, nationwide, are down dramatically from what they were 20 or 30 years ago. The CDC reported that in 1968, shootings by law enforcement -- called "legal intervention" by the CDC -- was the cause of death for 8.6 out of every million blacks. For whites the rate was was .9 deaths per million. By 2011, law enforcement shootings caused 2.74 deaths for every million blacks, and 1.28 deaths for every million whites. While the death-by-cop rate for whites has held pretty steady over these last 45 years, hovering just above or below the one-in-a-million level, the rate for blacks has fallen. In 1981, black deaths by cop stood at four in a million, but since 2000 has remained just above or below two in a million. So what's driving this notion that there is now an "epidemic" of white cops shooting blacks when in the last several decades the numbers of blacks killed by cops are down nearly 75 percent?" 'Racial' Cop Stories That Didn't Make the Cut
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TonyB2009 Inner circle 5006 Posts
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Kabbalah, thanks for supplying actual facts. Those facts do show that you are more than twice as likely to be shot by a cop if you are black. This is a lot better than I suspected, but still a cause for concern. However it is great to see that the numbers are coming down.
I did say in my post that the situation is improving. A figure I would love to see is the number of prosecutions that follow from cop shootings. How often are cops prosecuted, and does colour play a part in whether a prosecution follows a shooting? I suspect it does.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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Among the thousands of fatal shootings at the hands of police since 2005, only 54 officers have been charged, a Post analysis found. Most were cleared or acquitted in the cases that have been resolved.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investi......secuted/
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