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Mr. Muggle Special user 999 Posts |
I have Abbott's guillotine, and use it with my assistant. I want to use it differently- with an audience member. The concern that I have is that the "volunteer" can see "things" when getting in the guillotine. (those who are familiar with the prop will understand)
Besides making the "volunteer" put on a dark hood has anyone found away around this? I really don't want to start adding to the construction of the illusion. I've never seen anyone else perform this effect and I'm fresh out of idea's. If you can help either PM me or post if you'd like. Thanks in advance. MM
"Now you're looking for the secret... but you won't find it because you're not really looking. You don't really want to know the secret... You want to be fooled." - The Prestige (2006)
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
If an illusion was made to use an assistant then use an assistant or use a different trick made for use of a spectator.
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HarbinJr. Elite user I only have 450 Posts |
I have a lester lake styled head chopper and I have never had a problem with someone trying to figure out what was making it work. There are always the curious few but they just liftt their heads up and I place the stocks back down where that blocks thier view at that time. The headchopper/guillotine is such a "scary" effect that I would worry bout placing a hood over someones head. If they were a assistant that might be one thing but if I was the spectator I wouldnt want a hood over my head. Just a thought!
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Mr. Muggle Special user 999 Posts |
I don't feel that the guillotine HAS to be used with an assistant, so I'm not looking for another trick. If it were that easy, then I'd already have my problem solved. I want to expand on "my" limitations with the effect- thus being able to use it under a variety of conditions.
I haven't seen the Lester lake style but it sounds like it may have similar workings/concern's. Perhaps HarbinJr. is right with "the curious few" & I shouldn't be worried and just build a routine. In my experience usually when spectator's are on stage they are nervous & don't "burn" everything down. After all, there now part of the show. But there are always those few who do crazy things in the spot light, and for that reason I posted my question. I agree about use of the hood adding to the "scary" effect. That's why the routine I've been working on (with the hood & spectator) is a comedy routine. The hood's impact is less than it would be with a more serious routine. I use the hood as a repetitive item during the performance with it's final use involving the guillotine. So in this case, the hood is expected, while the guillotine is not. (Keep in mind also that the hood has eyeholes in it which are revealed by tearing the Velcro attachments away at the right moment. This is timed as a comedy relief). I just keep thinking that there is another course of action that could be used which I have overlooked. The "hood" routine won't be a standard part of the show. MM
"Now you're looking for the secret... but you won't find it because you're not really looking. You don't really want to know the secret... You want to be fooled." - The Prestige (2006)
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Magicduck Elite user Washington State 484 Posts |
I must admit I do not know this particular guillotine. I have a Jack Gwynne device and there is really not much to see. It is not the hardest thing in the world to figure out either, but it is funny. I do not know if the person is seeing secrets above or below. If below, you might toss a towel over the lower stock till the head is in it, then pull it out. If the problem is above, maybe come up with some comedy bit, since your routine is funny, where the person is suppossed to stare at some specific object as they get in the thing.
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Mr. Muggle Special user 999 Posts |
Thanks Magicduck that is something that I haven't thought of. Kind of like a visual force to not see anything. I'll play around with that idea, its defiantly one to add to the magic journal.
MM
"Now you're looking for the secret... but you won't find it because you're not really looking. You don't really want to know the secret... You want to be fooled." - The Prestige (2006)
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magicexp New user Chicago Area 1 Post |
I realize I'm about a year too late. But to be honest I just picked up the plans for the abbott Guillotine and I still can't figure out how it works even with the drawings in front of me so I wouldn't worry to much about a spectator.
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eb02 Special user 680 Posts |
I am using other type of Guillotine and I always use an audience volunteer. There is no problem, he can not see anything. He doesn't know what is going too happened and with the light on stage he can not see anything.
Eran Blizovsky
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Richard Sherry Veteran user Calgary, AB, Canada 313 Posts |
I have a basket at the base of my guillotine.I have a fake blood soaked head.This head in the basket more then distracts the volunteer and can be used as comedy or serious.Start to count---1-2 Oh! That reminds me.A couple of days ago I had a little accident! And pull the head out.Then count again and let the blade drop etc..
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The Donster Inner circle 4817 Posts |
It's Nice To See the Builders Commenting as Well.
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