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Justin Craddock
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I am trying to come up with a new routine with copper silver transpositions and my ending I want to change the copper coin to silver so that I have a silver english penny and a copper half dollar. I have the gimmicks I just need input - ANY IDEAS?
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Bill Hegbli
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Try the Bobo coin switch. Works every time.
KirkG
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Just don't do the one, two, three get ready and learn my pattern so that you can tell when I do the switch.

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Jonathan Townsend
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You might want to look at Kainoa's book "Coins on Edge" for some nifty mechanics. I'd offer you my routine but that is not quite in print yet. The move I suggest using for the routine is mentioned in Kainoa's book. It works just fine to switch two coins for two coins. Go for it!
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Justin Craddock
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Thank you Jonathan, I was thinking of getting that book but did not think it had anything to apply to my magic. I was also thinking of a spellbound to switch them both so that the audience thinks that nothing happened and has to examine them further to see the change. The only problem is that they may not notice the difference.
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Curtis Kam
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Jonathan, might this be an opportune moment for the "jinx switch with coins"?
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You might also want to check out Mike Gallo's excellent work from The Dynasty Continues where he produces four chinese coins at the end of the c/s routine. Garrett Thomas is also doing a version of this (I've seen him lecture it....I don't believe his is in print).

Coins on Edge not only has Jonathan's EG work (which can also be used to exchange a stack of coins for another stack....a useful tool if you've been holding out for a while or a few moments), it also contains four jazzier c/s sequences that will most likely not be worth applying to your magic.
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Curtis K has a great 3 for 3 switch on his POS. Only use it if you are not in Greater Kansas City Area. (Just serious)

Kainoland stuff is on my waiting to be purchased list.

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It'd definitely be worth your while looking into Kainoa's material, as well as the other sources mentioned above.

Is your routine designed to work standing or seated? If you're seated, you might want to consider John Cornelius' Metamorphsis Change, which I learned from David Roth's Expert Coin Magic Made Easy Volume 3. I use this in one of my own pet routines, ending with the simultaneous tabled change of two coins (just performing a modified version of the Metamorphosis Change with both hands at once and "you-know-whatting" the switched-out coins).

Cheers,

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Justin Craddock
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Kainoa, Garrett truly has palms of steel and he has shown me this personally due to the fact I live near him. However, I want a very clean way to do this without having to hold out through the whole routine and not being able to show my hands. Thank you, everyone, for your input
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tedski
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I am sure you are aware of the many mechanics of different switches that are referenced above, however, I am noting you are changing the traditional metal associated with these coins. If I may ask, what is the thought process, or motivation you are using for this? Are you emphasizing a transposition effect,or a transformation? Just curious...
Justin Craddock
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A very good Question!!! The thought process is that I want to build with each move and the end I want them to think they know what is going to happen but suprise them again. Another motivation is that I perform for alot of magicians and I want to take items that magicians are familar with and TRY to fool them. My last motivation is that this would be a copper silver routine not like any I have seen so to me this is my own.
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Jonathan Townsend
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Fussing with material for magicians that does not play for laymen is kind of wasteful. If you design your routines right, they will work just fine for both.
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Here's a good one: Silver Thief, from Wonderful Routines of Magic the second addendum.
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