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I am very interested in everyone's thoughts on this exercise.

It appears that things are starting a little early (in Texas)
Exercise was supposed to run from July 15 to September 15.

Are you ok with being part of this? (assuming you live in one of the participating states)

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They gotta train somewhere don't they?
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I'm pleased to hear that Canadian forces will help keep y'all in your place.

http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2015/0......ericans/

"UNDER JADE HELM, CANADIAN TROOPS WILL HELP ENFORCE MARTIAL LAW ON AMERICANS"

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Http://www.businessinsider.com/wal-mart-......y-2015-4

See article for complete context, I am just cutting and pasting a couple of sentences ...

"Wal-Mart suddenly closed five stores last week without warning ... The closures have fueled a bizarre conspiracy theory that the US military is planning to enact martial law this summer under the guise of a Special Operations exercise called Jade Helm 15. According to the theory ... the military will use the shuttered Wal-Mart stores as 'processing' facilities for Americans once martial law is hatched."

Even more here:

http://allnewspipeline.com/Walmart_Closi......Helm.php

"Is the US government preparing for an all-out economic collapse with Jade Helm, on behalf of the Chinese? Are Walmarts in the poorer areas being closed down to control the food, send those that are hungry scavaging to the more affluent areas, and to set off food riots, which would give the government a reason to declare martial law? Are some Walmart Supercenters being retrofitted to prepare to turn them into some type of processing centers for Americans after they have rounded them up as they practiced doing in Florida last month? Will they be used as China's C3 (Command, Control And Communication)?"
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Sanitised MSM reporting at the link, but it does contain a useful map:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/check......ig-deal/

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These types of exercises happen all the time. Most times they aren't even noticed.

And Canadians Armed Forces rock! Having worked with them they wear black flight suits (much cooler looking than olive drab) and thru paint fake cockpit windows on the bottom of their F-18 fighters so you get disoriented in dogfights ont the direction of the plane.

And, up to a few years ago when craft brewing took off in US, they drank much better beer.
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"These types of exercises happen all the time. Most times they aren't even noticed." Wow!
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Are you ok with being part of this?
This was my question. I don't know where this other stuff is coming from.

Silvercup: They gotta train somewhere don't they?

Iven: Absolutely! I just don't want to take part in any war games. I want to be free to come and go as I please. I will not let anyone into my Home without legal warrant. There is plenty of Government land and Military bases to do this exercise. They don't need to do this around civilians.
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balducci: Wal-Mart suddenly closed five stores last week without warning ... The closures have fueled a bizarre conspiracy theory that the US military is planning to enact martial law this summer under the guise of a Special Operations exercise called Jade Helm 15. According to the theory ... the military will use the shuttered Wal-Mart stores as 'processing' facilities for Americans once martial law is hatched.

Iven: Wal-Mart? When did I mention Wal-Mart? I don't even shop there.

Balducci: Is the US government preparing for an all-out economic collapse with Jade Helm, on behalf of the Chinese?

Iven: Economic Collapse? On behalf of the Chinese? AGAIN, Where did I say such a thing?

Balducci: "Memo to self, buy shares of stock in aluminum foil companies as soon as the markets open tomorrow"

Iven: I don't know who this is referring to. If you are making this statement in my behalf, Thanks but I already have a very nice, custom made foil hat. The stocks might go up a bit though.(considering some of the responses to my topic).

imgic: These types of exercises happen all the time. Most times they aren't even noticed.

Iven: Of course, Wargames are a reality of Life and as I said before, they should practice this sort of thing but I don't want them to use unwilling civilians.

Tommy: Wow!

Iven: I second that Wow Tommy. Tommy is the only one that did not put words into my question and did not insinuate that I am a Whacko.

http://www.statesman.com/news/news/local......u/nkz4w/

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Iven, fwiw, I never said you said any of the things you make it out I said you said.

I did post links to what others are saying about Jade Helm.
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From the statesman article:

"Officials say the training, which will be held in Bastrop County from July 15 to Sept. 15, will develop techniques and tactics needed by the military to defend U.S. interests around the globe."

I love that we no longer say that we are doing this stuff to defend our populace from a deadly attack, but merely to "defend US interests around the globe." As if MultiCorps Industries' interests and mine were one and the same.
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On Apr 24, 2015, balducci wrote:
Iven, fwiw, I never said you said any of the things you make it out I said you said.
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I did post links to what others are saying about Jade Helm.


You are correct Balducci.
I am sorry for jumping to conclusions.

Since my question was concerned with your thoughts i.e. opinion. Are what "others" are saying your thoughts as well?
Just wondering.
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What do I think about Jade Helm, nothing much. That is, I think it is a big nothing, just the training mission it claims to be. As noted in the Washington Post article, "the military has routinely launched exercises in the past in which regions of the United States are identified as hostile for the purpose of training" (see link for various past examples).

Why are some 'others' freaking out over Jade Helm? I don't know, except it seems now that every few years the same group (more or less) is freaking out over one thing or another (e.g. FEMA concentration camps, gold confiscation, Obama Brown Shirts Corps, U.S. military training to confiscate private guns, etc.). There is probably some deep seated psychological reason for this.

Or maybe it is just that certain media catering (and merchants / advertisers targeting) this group create / stoke these fears in order to make money. E.g., think Glen Beck's Survival Seed Bank (TM), the Liberty Dollar, etc.
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I suppose I would be concerned if I lived in an affected region, and the U.S. military was known to be 'trigger happy' in the presence of U.S. civilians, and the training exercise was using live ammunition. But none of these (AFAIK) are the case. Let alone all three.
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As the oil runs out over the next 40 years and the industrialized world collapses, taking it back to an agricultural system, there is going to be chaos and death on grand scale obviously. The powers that be are going to have to do plenty of military exercises like this one in preparation for these unfolding events. We can’t expect the powers that be to sit around and do nothing in face of this. It really does not matter If you like it or not. It seems to me.


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I never implied anything about anyone. I was merely pointing out that military exercises like these happen all the time, most times without civilian population noticing.

Airspaces all over the US have designated training areas that mock dogfights and pretend bomber runs happen all the time. Military training areas will designate local towns throughout a state for reference, to add more realism to the exercise but nothing ever happens in those towns.

The fact they're publicly announcing the exercise makes me think it's not some covert move to enact martial law.
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We do them all the time. It is far easier to base the exercise on an actual community than to make one up entirely.
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I remember participating in exercises like this over forty years ago. They're nothing new or ominous.
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To illicit public responses the control freaks put out various things like this to mental map the country. The various reactions of the various people in various places is data. To master the Human domain one needs such data obviously. The martial law exercise will tell which parts will do what come the real event. It is an experiment, Sheeple.
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It's not a martial law exercise. Only the conspiracy theory 'sheeple' are propagating that nonsense.
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