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I may be wrong, but I do not think anyone here has said the rioting in Baltimore was / is justified. So I think you are not alone so far as what is happening in Baltimore goes. Poorly phrased by me, but you know what I mean (I think).
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I think Randwill trying to hedge.

I think if there is misconduct I fail to see how destruction of citizens private property helps or is justified no matter what.
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On Apr 28, 2015, balducci wrote:
I may be wrong, but I do not think anyone here has said the rioting in Baltimore was / is justified. So I think you are not alone so far as what is happening in Baltimore goes. Poorly phrased by me, but you know what I mean (I think).


I was just addressing your question about under what circumstances rioting would be justified (if any). I'm not implying that anyone here thinks it is. I'm just sayi if we're talking about Baltimore-style rioting, we're not within light-years of anything that would justify it.
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Yes over 5000 Americans have been killed by American police since 9/11, so I also don’t know why they don’t now consider each new police killing as the new normal, stay calm and carry on.
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Americans are going to have to get used to the police angrily executing suspects.


Yep. Sad. But, what are you going to DO about it? Riot? ROFL! Tear up your OWN neighborhood? LOL! Go ahead! Nobody's gonna feel sorry for ya!

And the cops will do what they always do. Mistakes will always be made. My suggestion? Don't run from a cop! Ya ain't gonna get away! Ya might just get SHOT! No brainer. Ya do the crime? Ya do the TIME! Or die.

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Hijacker.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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Perhaps there's a reason they're called Baltimorons.
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"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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There should be no violence in the streets. It should be limited to police vans and interrogation rooms.


Is the implication here that somehow it is justified?

Police violence against suspects? No. Not justified.

Now that you are done being allegedly clever let me clarify.
Rioting to protest it. Is THAT justified in your mind?

Protesting yes. Rioting no.


So then you agree that what is going on there is not justified. Is that correct?

I agree that looting and destruction of property is unfortunate. People do notice it though don't they?

Which statement do you agree with? American police are going to have to learn that they can't angrily execute suspects. Or, Americans are going to have to get used to the police angrily executing suspects.


What if they execute them happily instead of "angrily"?
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There should be no violence in the streets. It should be limited to police vans and interrogation rooms.


Is the implication here that somehow it is justified?

Police violence against suspects? No. Not justified.

Now that you are done being allegedly clever let me clarify.
Rioting to protest it. Is THAT justified in your mind?

Protesting yes. Rioting no.


So then you agree that what is going on there is not justified. Is that correct?

I agree that looting and destruction of property is unfortunate. People do notice it though don't they?

Which statement do you agree with? American police are going to have to learn that they can't angrily execute suspects. Or, Americans are going to have to get used to the police angrily executing suspects.


I agree that executing suspects is unfortunate.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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Like the Boston tea party you mean?


Tommy raises a good question. Would we gentle, kind, law-abiding denizens of NVMS condemn the destruction of private property in the Boston Tea Party? Why or why not?
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Who will be Baltimore's Benjamin Franklin, insisting that all of the destroyed private property must be paid for?
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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Are we equating rioting like this with the founding of America?
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Danny: I'm asking a curious question. When does the destruction of private property constitute legitimate protest? The tea did not belong to the British government. Is there a moral difference? If so, what is it?
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Are we equating rioting like this with the founding of America?
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I'm not. I'm comparing the destruction of private property in protest to the destruction of private property in protest.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats
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Is the destruction of private property in Baltimore being done "in protest"?
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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Is the destruction of private property in Baltimore being done "in protest"?


Great question. Probably some is and some isn't. Some is probably unfocused rage. Some is probably going along for the ride. Some is probably opportunism. And some is probably calculated protest.
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The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
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I'm not. I'm comparing the destruction of private property in protest to the destruction of private property in protest.



Are you saying that all of those buildings and vehicles is a justified protest? Throw in some looting (got to have looting). Even if those affected by these so called protests had nothing to do with Gary's death? Let them know where you live and burn your house in protest. Or at least spray paint it just do a few thousand dollars in damage to show that they protest. Win, win. They are happy and you helped them protest. Put a few of your valuables on the lawn so they can loot them easily while destroying your property with fire and paint.. The get back to me about the Boston Tea Party.
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