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What about the half of the officers charged in the Baltimore killing who are black?

Charge all 6 law enforcer that was involved no matter the color of their skin. Remember we are looking for justice.

What do we want?...JUSTICE!
When do we want it?...NOW!





Dynamike,

What would you consider justice in this instance from what we know at this point in time? As you are constantly saying, "NOW". What do you want NOW? Right NOW. Tell us what would please you in the way of justice right NOW.


He doesn't know. He might as well be on street making a fool of himself along with all of the other rioters and protesters who don't know.


I don't think that is fair. I keep asking because he probably does know and my life experience being in white skin does not allow me the viewpoint Mike has.
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Looks like you have had a bit too much to think.



Yeah. I forgot. You already solved this a few posts ago. Smile
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I wouldn’t worry about it as the excessive use of force by the police is actually quite normal. It always has been so down through the ages and worldwide. It is all these cameras that are the real problem, as a lot of the normal police brutality is now being caught on camera and flashed around the world and causing all these uprisings. I think we all ought to do like Aces, close our eyes and pretend it does not exist and live happily ever after. Smile
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What about the half of the officers charged in the Baltimore killing who are black?

Charge all 6 law enforcer that was involved no matter the color of their skin. Remember we are looking for justice.

What do we want?...JUSTICE!
When do we want it?...NOW!





Dynamike,

What would you consider justice in this instance from what we know at this point in time? As you are constantly saying, "NOW". What do you want NOW? Right NOW. Tell us what would please you in the way of justice right NOW.


He doesn't know. He might as well be on street making a fool of himself along with all of the other rioters and protesters who don't know.


I don't think that is fair. I keep asking because he probably does know and my life experience being in white skin does not allow me the viewpoint Mike has.


I'm really tired of the " You can't know because you're not black. " excuse. Maybe sixty or seventy years ago, but not now.
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I wouldn’t worry about it as the excessive use of force by the police is actually quite normal. It always has been so down through the ages and worldwide. It is all these cameras that are the real problem, as a lot of the normal police brutality is now being caught on camera and flashed around the world and causing all these uprisings. I think we all ought to do like Aces, close our eyes and pretend it does not exist and live happily ever after. Smile



What do cameras have to do with your solving this case and being there and knowing all the facts? You did this all on your own because you must have been there. As I said earlier otherwise no one would make such a stupid statement. You should have come forth earlier in this investigation and saved everyone a lot of time and frustration. Keep up your good work Tommy. Looking forward to more of your reliable posts on these matters. Smile

By the way. Helmet cams are a great idea for police to wear and not rely on biased witnesses.
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Here we are in 2015. Some whites still hate blacks. Blacks are still tired of being mistreated. Justice NOW! There IS no justice! Now or ever. Smart thing to do, is rise above it. Get educated, and fight it from within. Not act like an animal, destroying and making noise. It just furthers the image they are trying to erase.

We look at this from outside, and shake our heads ruefully.

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" Some whites still hate blacks." Most blacks hate whites "Blacks are still tired of being mistreated" If they started acting human and stop all the crime they woulded be mistreated.

In this "politically correct" messed up world we live it we can't tell it like it is.Wake up and smell the toast burning.
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Well I don’t think it was as good as Dawn of the Planet of the Apes.
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Tried to set this man on fire...

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We all have to look in the mirror. Why hate anyone? My best friends have been black! Why would I hate them? Skin color? Difference in income?? Nope. Not good enough. When I don't like a person, it's because they may be a bad person to me. Doesn't matter what nationality or color, for crying out loud!

I have a friend from Syria. I'm told that I'm not supposed to like him. What??? Why??? He's from Syria! So??? What the HELL did he do? He's one of the NICEST people you'll ever meet! He's a Christian! That shocks people. I'm steamed at the open racism! His whole family takes it every day! They are so nice about it...I get wound up! I understand, if anyone does!

Hate does no one any good. Riotous violence doesn't either. Stupidity furthers the flame. Uncaring authority figures started this fiasco in the first place! There is NO place for racism in today's world! Black Lives Matter! You're .damn right they do!

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We all have to look in the mirror. Why hate anyone? My best friends have been black! Why would I hate them? Skin color? Difference in income?? Nope. Not good enough. When I don't like a person, it's because they may be a bad person to me. Doesn't matter what nationality or color, for crying out loud!

I have a friend from Syria. I'm told that I'm not supposed to like him. What??? Why??? He's from Syria! So??? What the HELL did he do? He's one of the NICEST people you'll ever meet! He's a Christian! That shocks people. I'm steamed at the open racism! His whole family takes it every day! They are so nice about it...I get wound up! I understand, if anyone does!

Hate does no one any good. Riotous violence doesn't either. Stupidity furthers the flame. Uncaring authority figures started this fiasco in the first place! There is NO place for racism in today's world! Black Lives Matter! You're .damn right they do!

Doug


Who tells you you're not supposed to like your Syrian friend?
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... If they started acting human and stop all the crime they woulded be mistreated.

In this "politically correct" messed up world we live it we can't tell it like it is.Wake up and smell the toast burning.


Nice way to openly denigrate an entire race. There's a word for that.
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Tried to set this man on fire...




So he was watching his 12 year old niece who he had to rush to safety, but despite being in grave danger at the pizza shop, the police would not even escort the two of them to his car, as El Ghannam had asked. Instead, he was told to just lock the door. I wonder if under different circumstances, like say, if El Ghannam was walking down the street one day and then ran in the presence of police, if they would chase him down and break his spine. Anyway, thank goodness El Ghannam is alright. He can always rebuild his shop and move on with his life.


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So.
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I wonder if under different circumstances, like say, if El Ghannam was walking down the street one day and then ran in the presence of police, if they would chase him down and break his spine.

Ron


Not sure if serious.

If so...
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It's quite possible given the millions Baltimore and other cities have paid out in recent years to settle police brutality suits:

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The city of Baltimore has paid $5.7 million in settlements from police-brutality cases since 2011, the Baltimore Sun reported last year. And they're not alone. According to multiple open-records requests compiled through MuckRock, a slew of major American cities have paid tens of millions of dollars in brutality suits.

One common thread? Cities with larger black populations are far more likely to see suits against the police—and to see eventual judgments.


Full story and supporting stats at http://www.nationaljournal.com/domesticp......20150504
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Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--jKRLKanxY

I thought I would add this simply because of all the racial nonsense and opinion being bandied about.

Turns out there are actually people who STUDY this stuff! Yea really empirically study it. Do some research BEYOND the slogans and chants and the bias we ALL have and you will find it fascinating.
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I think you can draw two obvious conclusions from that video.

1. White people are bigots cause they shoot black people more often.

2. Black people are victims because they've been taught by white people to shoot black people more often.
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That whole episode was pretty good and eye opening.
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I think the elite's plan of creating a scientific dictatorship to rule the entire world using advanced sciences including gassing whole populations from a world squadron of aircraft called the freemasonry of airmen, is a good idea.
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