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Kabbalah Inner circle 1621 Posts |
There is no defense for this!
Imagine taking your family out to what you assume would be a pleasant outing at the ball park, and, instead, dealing with this!
"Long may magicians fascinate and continue to be fascinated by the mystery potential in a pack of cards."
~Cliff Green "The greatest tricks ever performed are not done at all. The audience simply think they see them." ~ John Northern Hilliard |
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
Animals. Primitive, mindless animals! Seeing this...I get thoughts...and I hate that about myself. Seeing that white guy get beaten up by these thugs, makes me think...gee. If he had been HOME, this would not have happened! Go to a ballgame with this .sh*t happening? I think NOT!
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On Apr 29, 2015, landmark wrote: Is there a brilliant defense of *those* protesting from a prominent businessman?
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
Nothing at all eye opening there, unless you have been living in a cave for the last half century.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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NYCTwister Loyal user 267 Posts |
As I've read through this thread, it's no surprise that the group of posters who share the same mindset, and worldview, have used this opportunity to justify their opinions.
You also see it on the Ferguson threads, the gay rights threads, the death penalty threads and virtually any thread where tolerance, understanding, and love for their fellow man are qualities that are most needed if these problems are going to be solved. The sad part is how they think that no one sees the predjudice, bigotry, and hatred that is in their hearts. Their glee when these situations occur is thinly veiled, but obvious once you stop giving them the benefit of the doubt. They use phrases like "I'm not saying that this is the way I think, but......." and "It's not all of them, of course, but........." and "Some of my best friends are black, gay etc. but......" They'll never admit that it is precisely their mindset, which assumes superiority, and creates the divisions among us by default, that is the underlying cause of these problems. So you folks keep looking for these situations to justify yourselves, but in those rare moments when the truth matters to you, and you look for solutions instead of scapegoats, you should start by finding a mirror and spending some quality time. Please, carry on.
If you need fear to enforce your beliefs, then your beliefs are worthless.
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On Apr 28, 2015, balducci wrote: "A reasonable response." Wow.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
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Is there a brilliant defense of *those* protesting from a prominent businessman? Probably not, since they have so much less cause to riot. And still no one I notice has addressed the savage police violence and culture of Baltimore recorded in the Atlantic article. Here's the link again: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arch....../391158/
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
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Imagine taking your family out to what you assume would be a pleasant outing at the ball park, and, instead, dealing with this! While you're imagining, imagine you are one of these people: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arch....../391158/
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On Apr 29, 2015, NYCTwister wrote: That's a truly interesting perspective on the "underlying cause of these problems."
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
What is truly interesting about that usual load of self-righteous trite?
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
How does the hurting of innocent people help the cause again? I am fuzzy on that part and how destroying your own neighborhoods helps.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
How does doing nothing help the cause?
From an individual point of view, it all seems pretty bleak. My guess is that the rioters mainly fall into two groups. 1. Those that are expressing their rage at injustice. 2. Those who are caught up in the storm and are quite simply riding out the experience. Taking a long view, perhaps the central issue--institutional and ingrained injustice--will be addressed in some way. Time will tell.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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NYCTwister Loyal user 267 Posts |
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On Apr 29, 2015, Dannydoyle wrote: What's happening in Baltimore is an effect. Until the underlying causes are dealt with the effect will continue. Putting aside the rioters and the looters, who are just wrong of course, what do you think is the "cause" the sincere protesters are marching for Danny, and do they have a legitimate complaint?
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Randwill Inner circle 1914 Posts |
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On Apr 29, 2015, landmark wrote: Correct. For many people, *imagining* taking their family to the ball park is all they can afford. If you want to exercise your imagination, educate yourself about people and places outside your own limited scope and then imagine yourself in their shoes. |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On Apr 29, 2015, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: Is that the dichotomy? Doing nothing or looting & torching a CVS?
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On Apr 29, 2015, NYCTwister wrote: I'm glad to see you think it's a no-brainer that the rioters and looters are just wrong. I wish that much of your perspective were unanimous.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
Any lawyers here looking for work?
http://www.vocativ.com/news/188234/balti......arrests/ "Mass arrests during the Baltimore riots overburdened the local courts, forcing the public defender’s office to recruit private attorneys as reinforcements to represent hundreds of rioters, arsonists and protestors ... Maryland Public Defender Paul DeWolfe announced he could offer lawyers in private practice up to $50 an hour to assist with representing people arrested." I think they need a good recruiting slogan, like (Be a public defender and) "Unleash your inner Saul".
Make America Great Again! - Trump in 2020 ... "We're a capitalistic society. I go into business, I don't make it, I go bankrupt. They're not going to bail me out. I've been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me? No." - Craig T. Nelson, actor.
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RNK Inner circle 7493 Posts |
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On Apr 29, 2015, Randwill wrote: White or Black, if you are a person that has drive and ambition you can succeed in America. Your racial inequality reference has passed by. We have our first biracial president. If racial inequality and racism was still a major problem this would have never happened. Please, those (whether white or black) that act like animals, lacking disrespect and show no personal self perseverance will never get ahead or be employable. Imagine kids growing up in families that have a much greater percentage than 73% that have both parents to raise them. Imagine if the percentage of kids being born out of wedlock decreased. Use your imagination to see how much better the kids would turn out. Imagine instead of rioting these particular people gathered to discuss what THEY need to do and change to ensure a better quality of life for themselves and their kids. Just Imagine!!
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Kabbalah Inner circle 1621 Posts |
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On Apr 29, 2015, Randwill wrote: I don't have to exercise my imagination. My scope is anything but limited. I grew up in an all black neighborhood, raised by my mother in a single parent household, dirt poor. My mother was a waitress in a low income restaurant, seven days a week. After school, I washed dishes in that same restaurant. I watched the Baltimore riots of 1968 from a white barroom in that black neighborhood. Buildings were on fire all around. When the cinder blocks came through the windows of that bar, my uncle and the other men opened fire. No one breached that bar, and it didn't burn. I survived by coming under the tutelage of two black hustlers. They taught me to fight and they showed this white boy the ways of the con...dice, cards, pool and life. They took to me because I showed them magic tricks. They liked that. We were family. They were both murdered before I was sixteen! So, don't lecture me from a liberal perspective of someone who has never been there! Take yourself out of your safe element and actually walk the walk...instead of just *imagining* it. Then, get back to me.
"Long may magicians fascinate and continue to be fascinated by the mystery potential in a pack of cards."
~Cliff Green "The greatest tricks ever performed are not done at all. The audience simply think they see them." ~ John Northern Hilliard |
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
And your point is...? You grew up in a tough neighborhood, so it's okay if criminal thugs use their police badges as cover?
Talk about making excuses.
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