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Digitalyosh
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Hey guys, been having fun like always with a coin flurry and was curious if anyone has experimented trying to incorporate a shell into the routine? Besides that, my main question is involving a S#### and being able to muscle pass the coin(s) without the coins separating consistently? Is it possible or I'm I chasing a false move?
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David Roth uses a shell in his "Lapel Coin", which is a part of his Flurry routine, albeit not in the way that you might be wanting to implement it into the routine. I assume you're experimenting with the shell as a way to aid in some of the appearances and transpositions, but still show that you have "one" coin?

As for muscle passing the nested two, it is possible. I've used it in the past and it is doable. I'll admit that my set is custom and has a better fit than some of the mass produced shells, which might make it somewhat easily. I'll also admit that I use the muscle pass as more of a covert move than an overt (i.e. coin that falls up) move, which makes what you're describing somewhat easier.
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Digitalyosh
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You hit the nail on the head Bill. I've always was fascinated with shell use and just recently decided to add some gaff work to my coin magic. OF course the hardest part of using a shell in a flurry is the "talking" that occurs, but being a bit more slow and deliberate hopefully should solve the issue. I'll continue working on it and see where it takes me.

Once again, the sound does seem to be dodgy at best, when you've used the muscle pass with the shell, does sound distract from the move? Maybe because where I practice at, the sound of my pass gives away something is occurring. Does the audience hear or sense something must have occurred when the move is done?
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On May 9, 2015, Digitalyosh wrote:
Once again, the sound does seem to be dodgy at best, when you've used the muscle pass with the shell, does sound distract from the move? Maybe because where I practice at, the sound of my pass gives away something is occurring. Does the audience hear or sense something must have occurred when the move is done?


When I do it there is a very minimal sound. However, I have never had any problems or been called out on it. When I work it's usually in strolling situations were there is a lot of ambiant noise (i.e. restaurants, bars, outside events with background musics, etc) so the ambiant noice also helps to drown out the minimal sounds the nested set makes.
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On May 9, 2015, Digitalyosh wrote:
Once again, the sound does seem to be dodgy at best, when you've used the muscle pass with the shell, does sound distract from the move? Maybe because where I practice at, the sound of my pass gives away something is occurring. Does the audience hear or sense something must have occurred when the move is done?


When I do it there is a very minimal sound. However, I have never had any problems or been called out on it. When I work it's usually in strolling situations were there is a lot of ambiant noise (i.e. restaurants, bars, outside events with background musics, etc) so the ambiant noice also helps to drown out the minimal sounds the nested set makes.


I'll add something about noise here, Bill right on about ambient noise aiding to any "talking' coins or other object might make, But also good misdirection will add to this as well. I only say that because years and years ago,...

I took a trip to Al's magic shop in DC, to see Scotty York. He wasn't lecturing there, but he had set up a demo table inside Al's. Anyone that knows/remembers his Color Changing Knife routine, knows at the end he performs a vanish with a handful of knives to the line, take them home for the kids to play with (something like that), but during the vanish he drops the handful of knives and they "talk" a lot. I watched him perform this routine over and over and was amazed that no one ever heard the knives drop, they all held out their hands to take the knives and the look of amazement when they vanished was priceless.

So something you might want to look at if you find a place where there is "talking" whether its coins, cards or knives in his case, maybe try to add some form of misdirection at that point ?
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