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salsa_dancer
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I am sure there are many posts on this but I have to add my tuppence worth.

I got the DVD on Tuesday morning, and within 15 minutes I had learnt the system. This system has got to be worth the price of the whole DVD set!

If you don't know it then get it! The possibilities are endless!
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On 2004-02-12 19:24, salsa_dancer wrote:
...This system has got to be worth the price of the whole DVD set!!

If you don't know it then get it!! The possibilities are endless!!


It is... and you should.
I always carry this deck/system with me.
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This is a dangerous, dangerous system. The things one can do with it are incredible. As with any stack though, the problem is arranging a borrowed deck into the order quickly and without arousing suspicion.
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Well, if I was presented with a borrowed deck I wouldn't use the breakthrough card system. There are plenty of effects that don't need it.

The easy answer here is to learn the simple setups as well.

I am going to memorize the deck in this order anyway. As Richard says, the system is with you forever, yet a memorized deck fails after a period of not using it.
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I've been using the Osterlind breakthrough system for a while. I carry a deck with me all the time! Thanks, Richard, for this wonderful, ingenious system!
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Gentlemen,

I can't tell you enough how gratifying it is to hear about magicians using the system with success. If I have one goal in my publishing career it is never to foster anything on the magic public that isn't practical and strong. I am so happy you have seen the potential of the system.

Richard
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Richard Osterlind has dedicated an entire DVD on this system. The system is very simple to understand and learn, effective and powerful. Richard has shown a few effects based on his 'system'. One could create some great effects. Imagination would be the only limiting factor.

These who have no idea about the "Osterlind Breakthrough System" must see it for themselves. And of course Richard is an excellent teacher.

And three more words: Thank you, Richard.

:xmas:

P.S. Like all great magical effects, simplicity plays a great role. Richard's 'Torn and restored news paper' is one such effect.
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The torn and restored signed post-it note is ranking up there as one of the best impromptu effects I have seen.

I agree the T & R newspaper is great. I am not a fan of newspaper tearing but this one is very very good.
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I agree the torn-and-restored signed post-it note is one of the finest effects ever thought of.

In the packed four volumes of Osterlind's Mind Mysteries, there is something for everyone---new and different!

Smile
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For my money, the four DVD set by Richard Osterlind was the best "investment" that I have made in the past three years. The quality of the effects and the level of thinking are unparalleled.

I loved seeing the subtleties for the bottle production. having only read the effect before in an earlier publication I was missing the subtleties. But now...wow!

As for the "Card System", it borders on being an assault weapon. Too much potential. Thanks, Richard


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This is for Richard or anyone else using this great system. Except for memorizing the deck, is there a formula for knowing the previous card in the deck? In all other cyclical stacks, the same formula works in reverse, but I don't see how in BCS.

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Of course it does. But you have to reverse everything---that is, you have to reverse the order of the calculations as well as the calculations themselves. I won't go into more detail in a public forum, but PM me if you still need help, Jeff.

And of course that invitation is open to any other Café member as well.

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Rgranville,

I want to thank you publicly for helping me figure out the mathematics of the reverse calculations of the BCS. This takes a strong card system to new heights allowing movements, both forwards and backwards.

For anyone using BCS, contact rgranville for the mathematics of the reversed BCS. You won't regret it.

Jeff
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Thanks for the kind words, Jeff. And because of them, I've never been more popular here... Smile

Seriously, if anyone here WHO ALREADY KNOWS the BCS wants to know how to reverse it and calculate the previous card, send me a PM. The little piece I wrote to send to anyone who sends me a PM intentionally DOESN'T contain enough detail to learn the BCS if you don't already know it.

After reading what I wrote, if you still need some help with the reverse calculations, send me another PM with proof that you know BCS, say listing any six cards in BCS order, and I'll send you a more detailed write-up with an example.
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Rgranville,

Oops, sorry about that. I should have figured some would be looking for the setup for free. Anyway, you were a big help to me and I appreciate it. I would never have figured it out on my own.

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No apology necessary, Jeff. I don't believe anyone who has contacted me so far has been looking for the secret behind the BCS for free. In fact, quite the opposite. Several have volunteered proof that they know the system. I just wanted to make sure any future contacts understood I AM NOT giving away the secrets behind the BCS.
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I agree this is some great stuff. I had an idea concerning the torn-and-restored post-it note. Prior to the tearing both sides of the post-it note can be freely displayed. As a result, for those who know the effect, a special revelation can be revealed on the back of the signed post-it note after the restoration. A message that wasn't there prior to the tearing. So the restored post-it comes back with information such as a previously thought-of card that was forced on a spectator.

Just a thought. What do you think?

Thanks, Richard.
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I'd love to hear some original effects folks have come up with using the Breakthrough Card System. Not that Osterlind's effects aren't great, but what else are fellow magi doing with the system?

By the way, is anyone else using the Dolly Parton song "9 to 5" as a shortcut? Know what I mean?
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Jeff
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Joshua,

You have my curiosity piqued. What is the Nine-to-Five shortcut?

Jeff
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Got it, Josh.

Jeff, he means the mnemonic that will help you make the first calculation for one of the values. Get it?

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