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Tyren
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I've been practicing the color monte trick and I have it down pretty good, but I don't like the patter they give you with the effect. Does anyone have ideas for other themes?
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This probably won't make you too happy because you'll have to make a separate purchase to use the patter I recommend.

I absolutely love Paul Wilson's Gypsy Monte which is a separate marketed effect. It takes the Color Monte handling and pairs it with the gypsy curse patter line and makes for an excellent routine. The routine is a story about the origins of the scam currently known as 3 card monte. It uses Tarot cards and you show 2 fool cards and a fortune card. One day a witch came and played with her last few pennies. She got the fool each time so she placed a curse on the cheater to always lose. Each time he played, fortune kept coming up. Eventually he was broke so he searched out the witch and begged her to lift the curse. She took the cards and offered to play one more game. If he won, she'd lift the curse but if he lost, he'd lose the only thing he had left, his life. She put out one Fool card and the fortune card and the bet was on the last card. He said it must be a fool but when he turned it over, he died because he was wrong. It was the death card.

If you know Color Monte you'll recognize that by replacing the red card with the fool, the blue card with fortune and the money card with death you can do the routine. Paul's handling also ends with the other two cards turning into the death card, as well. He has some handling improvements, the whole script, all the cards you need to do the routine and his kicker ending. But, if you already have a tarot deck you can take the fool card, the fortune card and the death card and do Color Monte with a much more interesting patter line.

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Tyren
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Sadly, I do have a tarot deck! LOL. Thanks for the great suggestion! Exactly the type of ideas I was looking for.
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Sorry to say, as much as I admire Paul Wilson, the reaction to Gypsy Monte pales in comparison to Color Monte. It may be nice for magicians because it is "different."

I too looked for an alternative to Color Monte, but honestly, the reaction to the $14 card trumps the death card. However, you can use some of the handling from Gypsy Monte and eliminate the unfortunate alignment move.

And for those who say they substitute all regular cards (2 jacks and an ace) and get an equal reaction, I would say "NFW." (Sorry, I couldn't resist.) Smile
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I personally like the patter that comes with the trick. Put a few of your own touches in it, but keep the "theme" the same. Or else how are you gonna explain the $14 card?
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I use Oz's patter with a few changes I added to it to make more sense.
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I've been hearing a lot about Paul Wilson's routines...where can I find them?
~joeKing
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I do both the Color Monte and Gypsy Monty. It depends on the audience: if they are on the younger side I stick with CM. If in a restaurant or a dim environment with a slightly older audience the mysterious GM story will hold them spellbound.

I agree with GKFREED; the reaction to the $14 card in CM is hard to beat.
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All great comments! Thanks! Smile
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I never liked the "magic shop look" of the Color Monte Cards.

I use all regular cards--a Joker and a Queen of Diamonds--except that the money card is made from an Ace of Hearts. I erase the center pip of the Ace of Hearts with a pencil eraser. I apply "press-type" lettering that says "$280," and then spray the face of the card with artist's spray fixative--available in art supply shops. This makes the lettering permannent, and gives the card a finish that looks normal.

I do the regular color monte routine, but with the bets at a more believable $20. After seven bets, I say, "He said, 'You owe me $140 so far...I'll tell you what I'm going to do...'" The bet is doubled and the third card revealed--"He said you owe me $280!"

Part of the fun of the routine is the sudden addition of the bets. When you get to $140, the spectators realize that you have actually been keeping track of the bets, and that they have gotten very expensive very quickly. It adds a lot to the humor.
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I actually use 3 cards from an Owed to Poker Dan packet - it includes two Aces of Spades (and the DB) so the 2 ace of spades seemingly shown at the start is explainable... I like Whit's use of Jokers - that's even more easily explained...

Funny thing one time - I caught a friend I did it to trying as hard as she could to pull apart what she thought was two cards stuck together, the DB. Smile
catch you later

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Once again, Whit!

You've surpassed all expectations...absolutely the best routine for Color Monte I've ever heard...

Once again, I wish I had never left California...Magic Castle, Whit Haydn, Pete Biro...geez...I feel like I'm stranded in Siberia! I would like (with your permission) to add that to my list of routines...I WILL give credit to you...my thanks, again!

Smile

Doug
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With a little thought and reblocking you can even perform Color Monte as a stand-up piece. For the greatest clarity and contrast you may consider using the black-and-white Bicycle joker and an Ace of Hearts. These cards can be easily distinguished even in a fairly large room. I prefer to use a blank-faced card for the final revelation. It's a very good contrast to the other two cards; it's immediately regognizable and it has a magic and almost surreal feel to it, as if the face of the card has somehow disappeared.

If you are at all serious about performing a monte routine, you absolutely need to get a copy of The School for Scoundrels Notes on Three-Card Monte. I can assure you that the the stories of the closed and open monte are very well received by the right audience. People in sales and marketing, in particular, find this very interesting. In a lecture type of performace the stories of Frank Tarbeaux (closed monte) or The London Monte Mob (open monte) can be pure gold. For me the stories are more valuable than the actual demonstration.
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I do a version I call "Schrödinger's Monte," which I posted here.

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Every problem contains the seeds of its own solution. Unfortunately every problem also contains the seeds of an infinite number of non-solutions, so that first part really isn't super helpful.
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I do a version I call "Schrödinger's Monte,"


Nice! Very funny.
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On 2004-02-16 18:48, whithaydn wrote:
I never liked the "magic shop look" of the Color Monte Cards.


Exactly my reason for never performing Color Monte. Plus, there's that darned alignment move. I have been performing Wilson's Gypsy Monte for about a year now and find it a vast improvement both presentation-wise and method-wise.
Thought: Why does man kill? He kills for food. And not only food: frequently there must be a beverage.
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Hello,

You know I've been doing Color Monte for so long that I don't even think about it anymore.
I remember beginning with it during the '70's when I became a police officer and used a "gambling is illegal" theme.
Then I took a trip to Las Vegas and added a bit about losing most of my money in one of the casinos only to lose the rest of it to some guy in the casino's parking lot.
It just kind of evolved over the years.
Never really thought too much about the 'alignment mov''. I just realized that it was an effect that told a story and that the story was more important than the moves. So the emphasis was not placed on the moves.
That's about it.

Take Care,

Vincent Smile Smile Smile
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In another thread someone made the comment about using gloves being utter madness. I like to free wheel with seemingly mad ideas, and in a few seconds I came up with a surgical theme for Color Monte.

A heart transplant surgeon sent 3 hearts from a donor centre. Two okay hearts (Aces of Diamonds) and one heart which by the time it got there might have been too far gone but was still worth sending over (ace of spades).

And here's the problem, not only did the donor hearts arrive late, they'd gotten mixed up in transit--the surgeon needed to act quickly and remove the heart that by this time had gone bad. But the hearts all looked the same. He looked again but this time it was too late--all three hearts were in pretty bad shape. There was now nothing else for it. He had to operate or the patient would die.

The patient's life was now in the lap of the gods, and the skill of the magician, sorry I meant surgeon. Smile

So... did the patient get the good heart and survive or the bad heart and die?

Luckily for me I got this one and am still here to tell the story (if you hadn't guessed - I got the ace of hearts).

This might go down better with some audiences than a gambling or a curse theme. Smile

So there you have it - "Surgical Monte" by Clarioneer (AKA Darron C Pitman)
catch you later

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I like to do it with a red deuce and a black deuce and a King. Using a story line of finding the red deuce gets you two dollars and finding the black deuce is a loser. I start the story off with patter about going to the the fair and the sign I saw that said the "KING" of the 3 card monte. At the end when I show the red and black deuce and ask them for double or nothing do you think the last card is a black or red deuce, and then end with saying, "and that is why they called him the KING of the 3 card monte!"

Wes
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On 2004-02-16 19:48, Dougini wrote:
Once again, Whit!

You've surpassed all expectations...absolutely the best routine for Color Monte I've ever heard...

Once again, I wish I had never left California...Magic Castle, Whit Haydn, Pete Biro...geez...I feel like I'm stranded in Siberia! I would like (with your permission) to add that to my list of routines...I WILL give credit to you...my thanks, again!

Smile

Doug


Everyone is welcome to use it any way they like. Just don't publish it. ;-)
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