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On May 22, 2015, Lord Of The Horses wrote:

For that HIGH price I hope you go an extra.mile and include a carrying case for your gimmick!


I'll go two extra miles and give you TWO carrying cases.
One in case you loose the other one Smile
I shall see you on the other side.
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Kenton's early works - Wonder Words, Completely Cold, Wonder Readings...all the way up to Kentonism I think are pretty solid and worthy of being labelled "classic". The man, however, preaches endlessly in all his works and any belief in him vanishes the minute you see him perform. That said, it doesn't alter the fact that there is gold in those works - just take the preaching with a hefty dose of salt.

What this latest message is about I don't know other than boosting sales. And why he's selling the work (and therefore associating himself with) someone who is notorious in our strange little community I don't understand and that fact alone would make me steer well clear of him.
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Each time I've seen Kenton perform live in Las Vegas the response from May audience was very good. Not sure what to make about this latest development.
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There are a few really important names that I think should be in every mentalist mind. They have become great names, not by being a copy of others, but by having their touched added to the history. Kenton is one of these names. His approach to readings and most known, the Wonder Words have made a huge change in most listeners and readers approach. For me His work have added small changes in my scripting that changes a good effect into a miracle. In our search for knowledge, we shall never addict our self to one mind but instead search and read in the history from past to now . The foundation in Al Koran, Annemann and Corinda, the next generation in Maven, Knepper, Cassidy, Osterlind and Banachek and the young ones like Turner, Jermay, McLeod and Volpe. Of course there are others as well. But for each brilliant mind I can get a glimpse of, my world expands.
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Good point Cbring. The sheer number is staggering. I am currently studying Bob Cassidy's work. It is SO extensive, I cannot imagine taking on another project. How do you guys decide? I have the entire run of The Jinx, and have barely cracked that.

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Doug, I think Kenton's material is more theory based, and best applied to things you already do. If curious I would pick up Wonder Words, and go from there.

Picked up a TON of Kenton's material during a 50% off sale last year, but Wonder Words was probably more than enough for my needs and experience level. Have enjoyed most everything I've read though. Hope this helps. =)
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It does, Jeff! Thanks! Wonder Words. OK! Smile

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I'm curious to know where this announcement was made, because it isn't mentioned anywhere on Kenton's home page. In light of that, of course he'll receive dozens of emails from people who are confused about the change(???).
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It was on his wonderwizards page.
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And all over Facebook...
Yet again that oaf has destroyed my day
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Yes, but if you go to the actual webpage/home page, there's no mention of the announcement.
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It was on his homepage for about a week.
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Huh. That's very odd, indeed.
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I do know Kenton has send some blog-like emails to his followers and he has been unhappy with the state of the art.

What many of mentalists may not know is that Kenton is a killer magician as well. His sponge ball routine is tremendous and he is a great card handler as well.
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There is no such thing as "state of the art". That would be a static thing, something dead. There is only an individual performer striving to do their best. Web sites like the Café don't reflect "state of the art". They are vehicles for dialog. Imperfect though it operates sometimes, the process is still of value.
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On May 31, 2015, konjurer wrote:

What many of mentalists may not know is that Kenton is a killer magician as well. His sponge ball routine is tremendous and he is a great card handler as well.
No offense but I am a killer card handler as well. ( hate sponge balls). What does that have to do with the price of bananas?
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On May 31, 2015, konjurer wrote:
I do know Kenton has send some blog-like emails to his followers and he has been unhappy with the state of the art.

What many of mentalists may not know is that Kenton is a killer magician as well. His sponge ball routine is tremendous and he is a great card handler as well.


Therein lies an interesting problem. His "followers". He really did seem to start the craze of the creator that you weren't allowed to criticise.

Its interesting if he isn't happy with the state of the art. I think mentalism is in pretty good shape. Take someone that kk refers to as a student - Peter Turner. Great thinking, you can see he's developed from his earlier work and learnt AND he's got excellent performing chops. Something kk lacks judging by the videos. I don't have a problem with a creator not being a performer - it is common in our art - but kk is sooooo preachy he really should be better than he is.
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On May 31, 2015, konjurer wrote:
What many of mentalists may not know is that Kenton is a killer magician as well. His sponge ball routine is tremendous and he is a great card handler as well.


Good to know! I love the Sponge Balls! Cards? Not so much...

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On May 31, 2015, konjurer wrote:
I do know Kenton has send some blog-like emails to his followers and he has been unhappy with the state of the art.

What many of mentalists may not know is that Kenton is a killer magician as well. His sponge ball routine is tremendous and he is a great card handler as well.


Therein lies an interesting problem. His "followers". He really did seem to start the craze of the creator that you weren't allowed to criticise.

Its interesting if he isn't happy with the state of the art. I think mentalism is in pretty good shape. Take someone that kk refers to as a student - Peter Turner. Great thinking, you can see he's developed from his earlier work and learnt AND he's got excellent performing chops. Something kk lacks judging by the videos. I don't have a problem with a creator not being a performer - it is common in our art - but kk is sooooo preachy he really should be better than he is.


I should have been more specific. If I remember, KK was unhappy with the state of fly-by-night hacks that don't put time into the study, practice and perfecting of classic mentalism. I was speculating that perhaps that was the motive for pulling his material.

How is KK not a performer? Seems that he has made a living out of performing and is widely respected. I hate the hero worship that goes on in these forums but I have seen KK perform several times and he is a great entertainer. Which is why I made the point about his chops as a magician. Magic is not his mainstay but when he does magic it is...well, magical and very original.
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