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Matt Chalk
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On Jun 7, 2015, BillyAcre wrote:
This sounds like it's going to become one of those carpet places that is perpetually going out of business, if you have any of those where you live.

On Jun 28, 2015, Mr Timothy Gray wrote:
The strange thing is, most of everything Kenton has published is still available on the new website.

On May 21, 2015, Mr Timothy Gray wrote:
The message is very cryptic, isn't it? A form of double speak. It won't be available - but it will! - just not all of it! - in a certain kind of package! - there still will be stuff! - most of it will be gone though! - but we'll still have plenty available for you!

Several people expressing concerns about Kenton's business practices. The user above me was right in the fact this thread was derailed very quickly. It was an announcement about Kenton removing the majority of material from his site.

As I've said I think Kenton is a fantastic performer, his effects and creations are some of the most incredible and creative in the industry in my opinion.

Once again however I don't think its right to lie to your potential customer over and over again
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Just prowling around on the Magic Café I found this thread in reference to a website that is, nearly a year later, still up.
While there are extensive descriptions of the products in the above links, I have not read very much in the way of a good review of the products and have not been able to find anything besides people who love them and praise them, and people who acknowledge they are good but then criticize the business practices.

What's ironic is, both of these courses are about using LANGUAGE via NLP to get people to do what you want. I think it's fascinating that the advertising practices have accomplished exactly what is wanted by the creator; namely, to buy the products. The discussion these tactics have generated serve primarily to increase interest in the products, so essentially, he is proving the content works by using the principles to advertise it. Neat, huh?
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I don't agree.
The discussion in this thread lasted only for a little longer than a month and has been dead for a year now until
someone decided to resurrect it. With three links to where to buy the products.
How very obliging of you Smile

I think while this kind of sales-boost might work for a short period of time, you can do it just so often.
It doesn't last and does nothing to build a long lasting relationship with your customers.
I would guess in the long run this kind of practice wont help your business. Not in an community as small as ours.

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I think it's time for Kenton to disappear again. Just after the limited stock is gone.
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Unfortunately, I cannot speak with certainty, but much of his material has been stolen.
So maybe he is doing the community a favor by protecting his contributions to the art.
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When I think about Kenton's material (bought a few back in the days) two words comes to mind: pipe dreams. And if you limit me to just one word I'll go with armchair.

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