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On May 29, 2015, Raj Suman wrote:
No Not one bit. it has happened to me already in my town.


You need to move.
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Just pre-ordered this - and I don’t usually pre-order anything!

Thanks!

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Just pre-ordered this - and I don’t usually pre-order anything!

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I don't blame you Jim.
Given the information we have so far, I'd venture to guess that the likelyhood of being disappointed in this is fairly slim.
Plus, DP has a pretty good track record and every effect of his that I have purchased has generally been very good to excellent and certainly of very high quality.
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Yeah, I recently purchased Mystery Solved and have been very satisfied with that. And this one looks excellent.

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Would it look strange to have FOB and the Vault on the same keychain?
Hmmm...always more decisions to make. Smile
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Would it look strange to have FOB and the Vault on the same keychain?
Hmmm...always more decisions to make. Smile


Lot's of people have several knick knacks on their key chain.

Seems like you get one of those OMG moments by doing the coin to vault and then moving on to cards and at some point you say again "I haven't gone near my keys"...
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On May 29, 2015, Raj Suman wrote:
No Not one bit. it has happened to me already in my town.


You need to move.


He can't because his car was stolen. Smile Smile
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Just as long as there is a method that does not require flash-paper, and looks as convincing, then I'm in.
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A false transfer will do it, bring out lighter and pass to spectator as in the demo, ask them to light it, and say to pass lighter underneath your hand say that this heats up your hand and therefore heats up coin/finger ring so you can turn it so small it vanishes, there ya go, how's that?
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A false transfer will do it, bring out lighter and pass to spectator as in the demo, ask them to light it, and say to pass lighter underneath your hand say that this heats up your hand and therefore heats up coin/finger ring so you can turn it so small it vanishes, there ya go, how's that?


Morning guys,

That will certainly do it. Wayne and I played around with having the coin signed by yourself on one side and the spec on the other. Perform a simple transfer but the coin apparently staying in view prior to the vanish. This means that the specs can apparently clearly see their coin and yet all the work as shown in the video has already been done.
Also Any Ring by Richard Sanders or rattle box presentation could lend themselves very well with The Vault. I love it when they are convinced that it is still there. You can use my ring tapping subltlety without flash paper also.

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Mr Grumpy here !!!


Traditional NOB :- Take coin from spec, pull out nest of boxes and show to spec, make coin disappear, have spec open next of boxes to find coin.

Vault, Take coin from spec, vanish coin, show nest of boxes, you open boxes at first, then spec does.

I have a notion that traditional is best here.

Also " I never touched the keys"......"Yes you £$$$!! did"--- wonder how often you'd get called on that.

Not sure that NOB and ring flight actually work together - especially since an observant spec might spot that the vault wasn't on the key ring to start off with.
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Ray

You're not Mr Grumpy at all.

I agree, the traditional NOB is just as effective. If not more so.

I think it's more powerful for the spectator to be holding the box throughout rather than it being 'remote' and on YOUR keyring.

However, magicians will always buy the latest.

Maybe V2.0 will be made from clear plastic. Smile

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Ray

You're not Mr Grumpy at all.

I agree, the traditional NOB is just as effective. If not more so.

I think it's more powerful for the spectator to be holding the box throughout rather than it being 'remote' and on YOUR keyring.

However, magicians will always buy the latest.

Maybe V2.0 will be made from clear plastic. Smile

J


Do you know, I have no problem with magicians buying the latest toy for themselves...lifes about having fun.

Lets just not kid ourselves that many of thee new tricks are an improvement on whats gone before.
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Ray

You're not Mr Grumpy at all.

I agree, the traditional NOB is just as effective. If not more so.

I think it's more powerful for the spectator to be holding the box throughout rather than it being 'remote' and on YOUR keyring.

However, magicians will always buy the latest.

Maybe V2.0 will be made from clear plastic. Smile

J


Do you know, I have no problem with magicians buying the latest toy for themselves...lifes about having fun.

Lets just not kid ourselves that many of thee new tricks are an improvement on whats gone before.


Completely agree that this is a reworking of somthing that has come before. We even say it on the trailer. Personally I like the fact That Vault looks like somthing that belongs on your keyring and not a magic prop that you bring into play. I have always loved the nest of boxes as a plot and this effect being unexpected and organic and more like a Ringflight style effect works for me. Fully except if you want to perform it your way as like I said, I love the plot.

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Ray

You're not Mr Grumpy at all.

I agree, the traditional NOB is just as effective. If not more so.

I think it's more powerful for the spectator to be holding the box throughout rather than it being 'remote' and on YOUR keyring.

However, magicians will always buy the latest.

Maybe V2.0 will be made from clear plastic. Smile

J


Do you know, I have no problem with magicians buying the latest toy for themselves...lifes about having fun.

Lets just not kid ourselves that many of thee new tricks are an improvement on whats gone before.


Completely agree that this is a reworking of somthing that has come before. We even say it on the trailer. Personally I like the fact That Vault looks like somthing that belongs on your keyring and not a magic prop that you bring into play. I have always loved the nest of boxes as a plot and this effect being unexpected and organic and more like a Ringflight style effect works for me. Fully except if you want to perform it your way as like I said, I love the plot.

Cheers
David


|Its a nice idea David, doesn't quite work for me; but its a marginal thing.

Good luck with this one and keep inventing !!
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Mr Grumpy here !!!


Traditional NOB :- Take coin from spec, pull out nest of boxes and show to spec, make coin disappear, have spec open next of boxes to find coin.

Vault, Take coin from spec, vanish coin, show nest of boxes, you open boxes at first, then spec does.



Except that in a traditional Coin/Ring to Nest of Boxes, the boxes are not usually pulled out until AFTER the object has vanished. I don't know of a close-up Nest of Boxes where a spectator can be holding the boxes before their borrowed ring disappears. For me, an impossible location that's on the table all along is stronger than an impossible location that's introduced after the object has vanished.
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Concerned about keys getting stollen, how about a dummy key set, bummer if it happens but you still get to drive home after the gig. Concerned solved!
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Mr Grumpy here !!!


Traditional NOB :- Take coin from spec, pull out nest of boxes and show to spec, make coin disappear, have spec open next of boxes to find coin.

Vault, Take coin from spec, vanish coin, show nest of boxes, you open boxes at first, then spec does.



Except that in a traditional Coin/Ring to Nest of Boxes, the boxes are not usually pulled out until AFTER the object has vanished. I don't know of a close-up Nest of Boxes where a spectator can be holding the boxes before their borrowed ring disappears. For me, an impossible location that's on the table all along is stronger than an impossible location that's introduced after the object has vanished.

What a joker.

The whole point of nest of boxes is that they are on display before the item vanishes.

Here you go...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jBAk5aGsnM

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMJ3Lazbj68

Now eat your words.
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Mr Grumpy here !!!


Traditional NOB :- Take coin from spec, pull out nest of boxes and show to spec, make coin disappear, have spec open next of boxes to find coin.

Vault, Take coin from spec, vanish coin, show nest of boxes, you open boxes at first, then spec does.



Except that in a traditional Coin/Ring to Nest of Boxes, the boxes are not usually pulled out until AFTER the object has vanished. I don't know of a close-up Nest of Boxes where a spectator can be holding the boxes before their borrowed ring disappears. For me, an impossible location that's on the table all along is stronger than an impossible location that's introduced after the object has vanished.


So, as Jamie rather harshly pointed out, the NOB should always be in sight before the object vanishes, a simple switch is all that's needed.

On Vault, unless I am terribly mistaken, you pretend the Vault was there all the time , but it wasn't, an observant Spectator might pick up on this.

Its still a decent trick though.
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Wow. That's the way I've always done it! But if you're looking for a routine that's different, eh...Dr. Mike?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXWvZzwrlW8

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