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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On May 30, 2015, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: Being female isn't the setback; opting to disappear from the workforce is. And as we hear all the time in the abortion debate, it IS a choice. Making your two hypothetical teachers both female illustrates the fallacy. Let's say one of them doesn't want children; now you would have that teacher make no more money than the one with one year's less experience and who has spent a couple of thousand fewer hours teaching. In fact, let's take a childless woman and a man who takes paternity leave. Of course the woman should make more (other things being equal).
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On May 30, 2015, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: I suppose in a society where food, clothing, education, health care, and everything else were free (and by "free," I mean actually free, not "paid for by somebody else," though that's a "cute" definition, too), the consequences wouldn't be inherent.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On May 30, 2015, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: We have an economic system that imposes economic consequences on PARENTS, male and female (as does every other economic system in the western world with which I'm familiar), and no similar economic consequences on childless people of EITHER sex. As a father, you spent money housing, feeding, clothing, and possibly educating your children, true or false? No childless woman had similar expenses. I suspect if we brought my 42-year old childless-by-choice ex-girlfriend into the discussion and you made a ballpark estimate of how much you spent raising your children, she'd think it was cute (by which I mean "hilarious") that you think such expenses are gender-specific.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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lunatik Inner circle 3224 Posts |
Women can stop having abortions if they'd just keep their legs closed. Why don't they just play with themselves?
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
As an aside, I note (before S2000 gets to this thread) that the girl in the yearbook is suggesting that women earn 3/400 of the amount that men earn.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
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On May 30, 2015, LobowolfXXX wrote: Or, more likely, the student who typeset the yearbook.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
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On May 30, 2015, lunatik wrote:
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On May 30, 2015, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: Probably true...I'm inclined to suspect that you're right in characterizing the girl in the picture as a smart kid.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
If she's planning on being an entrepreneur, maybe the Association of Libertarian Feminists could help her by lobbying to limit the amount she'll be forced to pay people not to work.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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lunatik Inner circle 3224 Posts |
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On May 30, 2015, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: as I thought, no intelligent response....
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
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On May 30, 2015, LobowolfXXX wrote: I just got into Toronto. What do I know? |
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
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On May 30, 2015, lunatik wrote: Surely you're not honestly suggesting that your post merits an intelligent response. |
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lunatik Inner circle 3224 Posts |
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On May 30, 2015, S2000magician wrote: Surely In light of women who keep having abortions, killing their children, why not? If someone needs to have an orgasm and can't or won't take on the responsibility of raising a child, then they shouldn't be having sex. They can buy a carrot and have at it, no child will be conceived for them to kill.
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
I can only surmise that Magnus felt that an intelligent response would have been disproportionate. I think that your post is far afield from the topic of gender/wage equality, and also about as insightful as rhetorically wondering why people complain about car theft, when all they have to do to avoid is is not own a car. So I can't say that I'd have spent much formulating a response, either.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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Starrpower Inner circle 4070 Posts |
Lobo, you are comparing a criminal act (having your car stolen) to an act of personal choice (having sex). Perhaps he was a bit crude in his example, but his conclusions are reasonable. However, I agree that this is a tad off topic.
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
His conclusions are reasonable if you mean accurate, but also trivial. If the argument is that celibate people never have cause to get abortions, I don't think we're going to see much of a debate arising.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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