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Prometheus Special user Europe 524 Posts 
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Peter, it sounds like propless seems to be the real thing to you. But let me tell you, that using billets, books and other things in mentalism doesn't make a diffefence FOR YOUR AUDIENCE at all. It never happend to me, that after using a billet or something similar a spectator said "please show us/me something without using props/pen and paper". They enjoy it the same way. Even pros known for their geat prop free effects do not only perform this way.
Another important point is, working with 'props' gives your spectators something visuall to see. However it seems that you understand this point, as you stated in your first post that you (want to) work with large boards in your demonstrations.
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gijsbertjansen New user 13 Posts
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OK, gentlemanmindreader
You seem to be the victim of the old problem of prop-definition If you define props as multicoloured, meaningless, selfworking gadgets then I do understand your question. Please check Corindas thirteen steps If you think of pen, paper and envelopes just as mere tools for your demonstrations, then no need to ask this question since you are a mentalis already Now this may be a very blunt and simple reply, there is some truth in it 
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts
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Well said. I completely agree. |
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12967 Posts
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On Jun 15, 2015, Mr. Mindbender wrote: Agreed, but to perform his most impressive miracles... curing the lepers and raising Lazarus and the centurions son only required the faith of the prospect. |
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12967 Posts
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On Jun 15, 2015, TheGentlemanMindReader wrote: The salvation army can feed 5000. |
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts
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On Jun 16, 2015, John C wrote: Yes, but he still needed a huge prop for the Grand Finale. |
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Prometheus Special user Europe 524 Posts
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On Jun 16, 2015, mastermindreader wrote: The prop makes it way less impressive.
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Mr. Woolery Inner circle Fairbanks, AK 2149 Posts
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I am feeling mellow, so I will answer the question. First, though, I don't perform on stage. I am strictly hobby level at this time, so take that for what it is worth.
I usually have a deck of cards with me. Most of the time in BCS order. Several good demonstrations there. I like Ian Rowland's p**k for a single card divination. Gemini Twins is a great impromptu bit, but getting only one of the targets right makes it less like a trick in my opinion. And the strongest thing I know with a deck of cards is fortune telling. For propless one on one stuff it is hard to beat a palm reading or psychometry. Borrowed paper for a ct or AN based routine makes these practically propless. Again, I am not on stage. I am sitting with people and having a good time. I have used gimmick decks with good results. I do have a character appropriate reason for cards. But mostly I do casual stuff to keep life interesting. It also means I might never pull anything out because a good conversation can be more interesting to both parties than my impromptu marvels. Patrick |
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts
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On Jun 16, 2015, Prometheus wrote: I don't know. If he just stood there on the ground with his arms stretched out I don't think it would have had the same impact. |
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Prometheus Special user Europe 524 Posts
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It's propless or not propless, that is the question. And the answer is, propless is always better, there must be more impact without props, that's why these threads are coming up the whole time.
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Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts
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On Jun 16, 2015, Prometheus wrote: Nah, they keep coming up because people refuse to use the search button. 
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts
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On Jun 16, 2015, Prometheus wrote: i disagree with that - sometimes propless is overly long and quite boring... its not performed well by many people... and some don't understand what makes a prop, a prop... propless is not always better... I want intrigue, mystery, entertainment, fun, all kinds of things when I watch mentalism...i don't want to hear someone say "if I could guess the name you're thinking of, would you be impressed?" guess?! GUESS?! good grief... well structured interesting presentations with or without a "prop" in sight...that's what I want... has anybody got a link and a list? *cheeky*
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Prometheus Special user Europe 524 Posts
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I just wanted to make fun guys, don't worry!
I like 'propless' effects if they are practical, but still use books, billets, business cards, pads, phones etc. However, I don't want to change beliefs here, do what you think is right and what works for you. I'm just annoyed that some users here think this is the best, this is better, multiple posts about the best propless effect(s) and pointless discussions about those topics. The most annoying thing is when a anonym guy, new to mentalism is too convinced of his own beliefs trying to tell performers making a living with our art that these are wrong in their claims. Some guys are just immune to feedback.
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