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robwar0100 Inner circle Buy me some newspapers.Purchase for me 1 Gazette and 1747 Posts |
RNK,
The advertising is spot on: Changed my life (in companies I will avoid giving money) and changed my wallet (a little leaner, but now a whole lot meaner). Bobby
"My definition of chance is my hands on the wheel," Greg Long.
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RNK Inner circle 7493 Posts |
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On Aug 7, 2015, robwar0100 wrote: LOL. How true.
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
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On Aug 7, 2015, RNK wrote: Me too. Didn't even open it. Trashed. Quote:
What arrogance and stupidity. Nah. Just aggressive marketing... Doug |
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RNK Inner circle 7493 Posts |
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On Aug 7, 2015, Dougini wrote: Actually the only approach they could take. Otherwise they would be admitting their ignorance and false marketing.
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magicshowprod Regular user Seattle, WA 109 Posts |
It did change my e-mail life. I asked to be taken off of their e-mail list. Yeah.......I was pretty disappointed by the whole thing.
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
Ellusionist does have a gem once in awhile. FRAUD was one.
Doug |
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magicshowprod Regular user Seattle, WA 109 Posts |
Okay....you know I snickered a little when I read that
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pelicantrapper Regular user VA 193 Posts |
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On Aug 7, 2015, Dougini wrote: FRAUD is beautiful. Where is Brad on all of this? I still give Props to E for the old Brad Christian Dvd's though. That's where I got my start. |
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
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On Aug 7, 2015, pelicantrapper wrote: That was my start too. The Crash Courses. Not sure about Brad to be honest. He's a good guy. We used to correspond. That's how I got the heads-up on The Gaff Decks and Army Of 52. My favorite by far is the Ghost Deck and its Gaff Deck. White Bicycles. FRAUD was a heads-up. So was KAOS. I don't know what's going on over there. The uber-hype is starting to **** me off. Doug |
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gtx magic Special user United Kingdom England 954 Posts |
This is a review from the TNT guy's Re: magic's most life changing product...."CHANGE".Alex and Nico got it spot on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JRF22JPEYY Graham.
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
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Markymark Inner circle 1686 Posts |
I thought their review was too kind!
The phrase that comes to mind when I think of 'Change' is.. At least Dick Turpin wore a mask!
''In memory of a once fluid man,crammed and distorted by the classical mess'' -Bruce Lee
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Legendary Wizard Inner circle The Wizard , The Legend 162,885,947,3659, 1694 Posts |
Yea I agree they are too kind ... Afterall TNT guys are quite nice , and how is this is " thrust the trailer " ? According to TNT guys a trailer must contain the full performance including double lifts , switches , whatever needed , in the trailer of CHANGE , hah just the change is shown ... They gave Unbelievalope a " don't thrust a trailer " just because a load is not shown ...
That aside , CHANGE is just a piece of **** . Now move forward ...
" Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one " ...
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robwar0100 Inner circle Buy me some newspapers.Purchase for me 1 Gazette and 1747 Posts |
I am working with a videographer tomorrow to shoot my magic show for a promotional video. I am going to have him shooting video of me performing Change, and I will get reactions to my real-world performances.
Bobby
"My definition of chance is my hands on the wheel," Greg Long.
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robwar0100 Inner circle Buy me some newspapers.Purchase for me 1 Gazette and 1747 Posts |
Oh, and I am going to perform the effect as it is shown in the trailer, you know, the thing that made me buy it.
Bobby
"My definition of chance is my hands on the wheel," Greg Long.
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Legendary Wizard Inner circle The Wizard , The Legend 162,885,947,3659, 1694 Posts |
Looking forward ~
" Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one " ...
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robwar0100 Inner circle Buy me some newspapers.Purchase for me 1 Gazette and 1747 Posts |
Sorry to disappoint ... no video today.
I was doing an outdoor gig for two hours, and afterward neither I or my videographer wanted to do anything else. So, nothing to show. I might try again on Sunday. We'll see. Bobby
"My definition of chance is my hands on the wheel," Greg Long.
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Alex DLF Inner circle 1992 Posts |
Change – Lloyd Barnes
Product description : Oh well oh well oh well ! The most hyped trick of 2015 is finally in my hands and this is going to be one of the few reviews where I'm going to destroy the product. I'm telling it to you right away because we can't approve anything related to this trick : hype, way of selling it and the product in itself. Basically, Change is “A collection of 5 effects that will change your life forever”.. Yeah, whatever. You get a color changing card, vanishing the angel, making a card blur, a changing coin and a thing with headphones. Price and where to buy it : This is sold at $29.95 and you can only find it on the Ellusionist website. What you get : You get a small carboard sleeve, I think they did it because it was cheap to ship and easy to store for them, with inside 5 gimmicks which will allow you to perform the effects stated previously. Alright, I will say that only 0.5 gimmick can be used (the blurry king) and you will have to be very very careful about the light and the angles. You also get a streaming video for the explanations, nicely shot, but it doesn't help at all when it's the material which is the main problem. Unhappy with what I received. Teaser : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_U_FME11qs The pros and the cons : Here is the core of my review, let's begin with the cons, as I will usually be doing, I prefer to keep the good things for the end. THE CONS : Well, let's start by the hype around the trick. For months, the E team has been teasing the entire world with this release, for months ! They said that magic would be changed forever blablabla, all the usual BS but hey, Ellusionist is quite a big company which put time and efforts into their products, let's trust them ? The way it has been sold, only 999 DVD available, but hey, when it's out of stock, we still have 1.000 DVD waiting to be sold ! So they lied just to make quick bucks, to make people buy it very quickly and say “First batch sold in under 10 minutes”, more BS hype. Let's talk about the gimmicks should we ? A new principle ? Are you kidding me ? I'm born in 1995 and I remember when I was 4 or 5 having this kind of toy in my cereals ! Of course, they were not made out of Bicycle playing cards but don't say it's a new principle ! The gimmicks shine as hell, whatever light you're using. I can't see anyone using it in real life or maybe if you're in the deep night, you have a chance of getting away with it. (Or for TV and camera but I don't buy a magic trick to perform it only to my webcam) The angles ! Sometimes in my review, I say that the angles are very limited but here, they're just awful ! Anyway, if you like dual reality, you can do a multiple reality here because everyone in the room will see something different ! Ahaha, I just realised that it could be a good trick in fact : “Man, you see that blue card ?” “What blue card, it's red !” “Guys, I'm seeing it purple”.. The color of the gimmicks are.. bad. They do not match at all the color of Bicycle playing cards. The coin gimmick isn't cut out ! You have to cut A PERFECT CIRCLE to be able to have your gimmick, who is going to do that ? Why didn't you precut them ? It was too much time and you had to hype the whole project ? Misleading trailer anyone ? The trick with the headphones can't be done as shown. There is no way you can get away with 99% of the gimmicks, they're not well made per say, they are very shinny, doesn't feel and look at all like playing cards. THE PROS : You get 5 gimmicks so you can give them to 5 children to play with them. It's cool to do it on video. Overall rating : One of the worst project/product I've seen in a long time, definitely not worth it, please don't buy it, you will be disappointed because YOU CAN'T USE THE GIMMICKS ! 0/4 hearts, one of my first really bad review in a long long time, I really hope products like that will disappear from the market. As for the difficulty level, you will have to be a master to present it in real life, from the angles to the light, you can't do it (or you will have to have somebody just in front of you, somebody a little bit old so they don't see well), 4/5 stars. Similar products : From regular color change with sleights to flap cards, they are millions ways of achieving the same effect in the spectator mind. Please, learn the proper sleight instead of buying this piece of ****. If you like this review, please make sure to read all the other ones on my website, link in my signature
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Slackerking Special user 613 Posts |
I've had this for quite a while and it's true, this is in no way a great product. Probably not even a mediocre product. A clever idea but not fleshed out well. That being said, it's also not as completely horrible as some have made it out. The Blurred King is fantastic, I use it regularly in a faux mentalist routine with Speechless, Weak and P'ink I Can't Read. The angles are simple. The bad news is that's the best card. The color changing is okay in limited situations but their are many better ways of accomplishing the same thing. The traveling angel is mediocre, lighting is very important in the right place it could be ok but as with most of the cards you can accomplish the same better other ways. The headphone card is the most disappointing because it's the one I wanted the most. It doesn't disappear completely rendering it useless. The coin is just awful.
The fact that I purchased off the trailer is no ones fault but mine. I'm an adult, I made the decision that it was worth the price and gamble to preorder it, and any disappointment from that purchase falls squarely on my shoulders. Would I buy it again? No. Would I buy more product from Lloyd Barnes? Absolutely, I've purchased a number of his releases and never been unhappy. Ellusionist? Of course, one dog out of ten or more purchases is pretty good. Not every product is s winner. In magic. In life. But...Ellusionist. You need to post everyone's reviews on your site otherwise none of them are useful at all. There are obviously many posters who've submitted reviews that weren't posted. Mine wasn't ever posted and you've had it for months. The way you market a product is your prerogative, but censoring opinions about the product is just shady. |
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Chessmann Inner circle 4242 Posts |
Methinks you are blaming (if that is the word) yourself a bit too much, and would somewhat lessen the responsibility you place on your own shoulders, based on the misleading statements put out by Ellusionist.
Lloyd certainly has put out some winners, but he released the effect, and is on the Ellusionist team, so he has some responsibility to bear in all of this. Agree 100% about Ellusionist
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Paul S Wingham Inner circle 1378 Posts |
My review surprisingly didn't appear on the ellusionist site either. Thankfully for E; there are plenty of gullible morons out there who'll continue to buy their stuff; but it wont be me again.
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