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999 copies sold that fast?.. Mmmkay..
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On Jun 25, 2015, TheDirectionalist wrote:
999 copies sold that fast?.. Mmmkay..


They did indeed.
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They apparently still have some batch two product available. I was able to order a little while ago.
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Don't take this the wrong way, but I will wait for some reviews.... Don't get me wrong, this looks awesome and amazing but what trailer doesn't these days. Good luck and wish you the best!

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On Jun 25, 2015, Gorecki wrote:
Very sweet looking effects, and I'm not sure how it's done.
But here's what's stopping me: it looks so much like lenticulars that even if that's not how it's done, I'm afraid most spectators will assume it is.
And as we all know, if they *think* they found the solution, then in their minds, the magic is gone (whether or not their theory is right).

That's why convincers abound, especially when it comes to stage magic. Copperfield sure *looks* like he's suspended from wires, right?
Well, we'll show you enough "proofs" to convince you that it couldn't be the case. Otherwise, spectators just go "He's suspended from wires" and that's the end of it.


You hit it exactly, Gorecki. The visuals are beautiful and I have no doubt that Lloyd gets incredible reactions with this stuff but I don't like that the spectators have that solution, right or wrong, to grasp at. I'm curious to hear the 999 reviews though.
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The great news is that the effects can be performed in such a way that they do not 'leave a trail,' and I think still be very effective. It never occurred to perform each one of the effects in the way they are shown in the trailer.
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All wait for reviews. Looks great but demos allways look great.
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Well, the only question, finally, is : how does it work ?

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Don't take this the wrong way, but I will wait for some reviews.... Don't get me wrong, this looks awesome and amazing but what trailer doesn't these days. Good luck and wish you the best!

J Rodriguez
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As a discount mortician, I am always looking for deals. If they sold 999 copies the first day, as stated, and have ordered another batch of 999 copies, then out of 2000 sales I am sure a few will find their way to let's Make a Deal section because it is unthinkable that everyone will find it for them. You may be waiting for a review but I am waiting for the half off sale. Oh wait, I already ordered a copy.
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I love the idea of this! I buy from Ellusionist without question. Everything I have ever bought from them has been SUPERB! I won't pre-order though. Got it in stock? I'll buy it. This "limited run" crap really burns me! Oh, only 999 copies! Awww, sold out! Yeah, right. When ya got 'em in stock, I'll get one.

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This "limited run" crap really burns me! Oh, only 999 copies! Awww, sold out! Yeah, right. When ya got 'em in stock, I'll get one.


But Doug, Doug, you don't understand! Yeah, there were only 999 ("we're not lying," they said!), so it was really miraculous that they could get another 999 in just a few days! And I'm sure it will really be a case of "when they're gone, they're gone!"

Maybe they meant that when the money coming in for the effect is gone, then they're gone. Smile
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There's no way Ellusionist made only 999 of 'em. There must be the single last one. The 1000th one. Can I order it, please? Smile
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Gents,

We genuinely sold out of the first 999. I'm absolutely over the moon and thank everyone so far for supporting me. It's not often that someone can genuinely say they have a sell out release in just over 19 hours but I am now one of them.

If anyone read the email sent out by the team, we've put an order for another 1,000 that are not in stock yet and won't be until the estimated arrival date; Tuesday 28th of this month.

Unfortunately for those who enjoy the negativity, this isn't some marketing plot just so we can look like we sold out. We absolutely did. I am not egotistical, dishonest or arrogant enough to come on a forum and put my name on the line to lie about something like this.

Again, thank you to everyone else. Sometimes I do question why I release things when I read posts from the pessimists in this world but the overwhelming positivity from everyone else makes it all worth it.


Cheers,
Lloyd

Also, Daniltan, you can place a preorder for one that will be in stock and sent out on Tuesday. However, we're just about sold out from the preorder amount too so you will have to be quick.
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Its a business I guess and creating false demand is a well used ploy. Not how I'd do things personally though. Its been said that they never said it was limited, but why mention 999 if its completely arbitrary and why not make that clearer? Or should we expect every new release to come with the number available. I still think this will be good. Whether or not its real world workable, is yet to be seen. Lloyd's stuff has always been good in the past but I'm struggling a little to understand how such an overhyped product wasnt hyped with a real world demo.

I bought it for a promo video so real world workable would be a bonus but not a deal breaker for what I want it for. I have high hopes though as I've not been let down by these guys before.
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Smile Lloyd, I don't think anyone is blaming you or holding you personally responsible for any of the marketing stuff. And re: whether Ellusionist actually did sell out the first 999 seems to be very low on the importance ladder, here (the way I read it, anyway).

Ellusionist left themselves open for a little humorous digging when they said "we've only got 999. We're not lying." While that may have been true, the very clear insinuation was that you better get it now or you'll risk getting left out, and now they've doubled their order pretty quickly! With all the hype this effect had combined with the stunning trailer, personally, I've no doubt they sold out the first run. It really wasn't a surprise that Ellusionist were well prepared to make more.

Ellusionist is a proven, quality dealer, no doubt, but its ok for us to find humor in their marketing from time to time.

Congratulations on what looks to be an excellent release.
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It's been a few years since I've posted here so I suppose this needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Having been around the block for a while with Ellusionist, I'll admit that when I first saw Change I was stumped. What I saw wasn't a polished performance, it was simply one of the staff saying 'Here, check this out.'

I had a few guesses as to what it was and I was wrong, but when I found out HOW it was done I thought it was brilliant, and still do.

That said, there's a few people here who are concerned with spectators trying to guess the method, yet don't realize the most of them try to guess the method for almost everything they see these days. Yes, they'll be guessing. Yes they'll want an explaination. A rock solid performance, with proper start/finish will alleviate almost all of the issues that might arise from the spectator's doubt.

For the purists who don't want to carry another gimmick.... your color changes may be good, but they don't look this good.

Buy it. I am. The creative among us will take this and run with this. Those who just want the latest will have to work a little harder. But I truly feel that it's worth your time and effort.
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I hope I was not seen as one of the negatives. I like this. I really DON'T like waiting for something that sells out and is no longer available after being hyped for pre-order. Case in point? Jay Sankey's Magus Capsule. Revolutionary! Next level Cups & Balls! Yeah? Try and find one today.

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So wait... It's being shipped on the 28th of this month? That is a Sunday.

The 28th of NEXT MONTH is a Tuesday.

So this will be shipped out on Sunday this weekend? (Even though the post is closed) or it will be shipped out Tuesday a month from now? I was under the impression that it was this weekend.
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So wait... It's being shipped on the 28th of this month? That is a Sunday.

The 28th of NEXT MONTH is a Tuesday.

So this will be shipped out on Sunday this weekend? (Even though the post is closed) or it will be shipped out Tuesday a month from now? I was under the impression that it was this weekend.


Ellusionist sent out this email:

"Orders that were part of the initial 999 units will be sent out from our Warehouse at the beginning of next week, but we're extending the pre-order as we'll have an entirely new batch of 999 units, with CHANGE technology applied to the gimmicks delivered on Tuesday. (4 days from now). Anyone that's quick enough to get their hands on CHANGE from this moment on, will have their packages sent out from Tuesday next week, onwards."


So orders are going out very early next week it seems. It would be great if there was a streaming video in our account prior to shipping as they have done with some of their other products.
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On Jun 26, 2015, Lloyd Barnes wrote:

Sometimes I do question why I release things when I read posts from the pessimists in this world but the overwhelming positivity from everyone else makes it all worth it.


Don't be a baby. This is the real world - people question things and have opinions. Sometimes they're right, sometimes they're wrong, and sometimes their opinions are not the same as yours. It's not like you release these things out of the goodness of your heart; you do it because you make money from it, and run a business. You just turned over nearly $30k in 29 hours and you're complaining about a few posts on a magic forum because they weren't to your liking. FFS.
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