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pegasus Inner circle United Kingdom 8039 Posts 
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On Jul 7, 2015, petegrimaud wrote: Cos he's got his sidekick to do it for him. 
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Brŕth 3642 Posts
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On Jul 7, 2015, TuneHV wrote: Maybe they are here really but standing at an angle.
When the chips are down, the duvet is uncomfortable.
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TuneHV.png "View Profile") Inner circle New York 1778 Posts
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David Jonathan
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Jack Straw Special user Wichita 870 Posts
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Return yours to Ellusionist.
I already got my Return Authorization Number, and will be mailing it today. You won't get your shipping back, but $29.95 is better than nothing. And hopefully it will teach them a lesson. You will be complicit in this fraud by not doing anything about it. Ellusionist and Lloyd Barnes and Geraint are added to the growing list of those that I will no longer purchase from. And trust me- once someone is added to the list, I truly have NEVER bought anything from them, no matter how tempted I was. I hope they're happy about all of this!
Jack Straw from Wichita, cut his buddy down
And dug for him a shallow grave, and laid his body down Half a mile from Tucson, by the morning light One man gone and another to go, my old buddy you're moving much too slow We can share the women, we can share the wine |
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altrez Loyal user Kentucky 215 Posts
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On Jul 7, 2015, Jamie Ferguson wrote: That made me spit out my coffee! So funny! :) -Altrez |
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pegasus Inner circle United Kingdom 8039 Posts
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On Jul 7, 2015, Jack Straw wrote: Well said Jack. I hope everyone listens. |
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weepinwil Inner circle USA 3298 Posts
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On Jul 6, 2015, magicshowprod wrote: I agree. Think I will post my review on good, bad, garbage forum.
"Til Death us do part!" - Weepin Willie
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fabbmagic New user 14 Posts
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No very pratical live!
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pelicantrapper Loyal user VA 202 Posts
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On Jul 7, 2015, TuneHV wrote: HAHA Jeez. $115. I hope no one falls for that. But alas, someone will. Still we have yet to see any live performances where these cards have fooled someone. |
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Nash Inner circle Hong Kong ~ USA 1063 Posts
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One of the biggest draw back of magic that can only be done in a 1-on-1 situation is exactly that.
You are limited. Ever seen an enthusiastic audience grabbed their friends and surround you and ask you to do the same trick for his friends again? yup.. happens a lot in real life. |
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Nash Inner circle Hong Kong ~ USA 1063 Posts
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One of the biggest draw back of magic that can only be done in a 1-on-1 situation is exactly that.
You are limited. Ever seen an enthusiastic audience grabbed their friends and surround you and ask you to do the same trick for his friends again? yup.. happens a lot in real life. |
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Chessmann Inner circle 3987 Posts
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There has been some response to the negativity toward change on the Ellusionist forum - one of the responses is from one whom I believe is a staff member. Here are some words by Christoper Thisse:
"If you put the work into getting the angles right, this is a great set of gimmicks. But people seem to expect real magic when a product they can't figure out is released. So then they're disappointed with the mundane method and they think it won't fool anyone - forgetting that they themselves were fooled by it. Happens with pretty much every single release. "When it comes down to it - you just have to put the work into getting good at the trick. Some people are too lazy to do that." Which does not address the very specific questions that have been raised. Hmmmm... "Mundane method...?" We were told this was an advance principle that was harnessed into action! 
My ex-cat was named "Muffin". "Vomit" would be a better name for her. AKA "The Evil Ball of Fur".
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TuneHV Inner circle New York 1778 Posts
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So a Penny is 5X its size because I'm lazy?
And a red card looks purple because Im lazy, too? Oh, and because Im lazy the face of the king looks like it was printed on a sheet of plastic that doesn't resemble a real playing card? I guess I'm just not ready to change my magic forever. Good to know!
David Jonathan
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Jared Inner circle Rhode Island, USA 1251 Posts
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I received mine yesterday and like many others was disappointed. The angle restrictions and lighting conditions were too stringent for my style of performing...Perhaps others will feel differently. The method was clever and I can see it being useful for someone who wants to post some visual magic on their website where you can better control the environment. I'm sure that Lloyd is disappointed by these comments but I really don't feel that it's an issue of practice or "putting in the work". Lighting and angles can be very uncooperative in strolling situations despite our best efforts. Lloyd seems like a very creative individual, so I'll be looking forward to seeing his future work.
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TuneHV Inner circle New York 1778 Posts
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On Jun 24, 2015, GeraintClarke wrote: This is part of the reason everyone is so upset... I mean now that we see what it is, that statement is simply not correct. What happened to magicians helping magicians?
David Jonathan
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catweazle Special user 916 Posts
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Maybe its the bit about it changing the face of magic, breaking the internet, and all the other turgid statements put out by people we are supposed to trust that has really upset people, at least they have shown their true colours, so we can ignore their hype in the future, I doubt vol2 will sell out, though the hype machine may try to imply it is a success..
at least 5 people here are now on my ignore list.. the ones supporting this are fooling no one but themselves. |
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emyers99 Inner circle Columbus, Ohio 3742 Posts
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Vol 2 will come out....right after the colored smoke cartridges they promised about 3 yrs ago.
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nattefrost Special user 687 Posts
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Just received my set today. It sure is fun practicing it in the mirror but I have yet to watch the video but it is what I thought it would be. Like Jared said it might be good for some YouTube or video stuff, but angles will be difficult without a doubt. Watching the video now so I'll see what happens.
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tomsk192 Inner circle 3894 Posts
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It has been an education to read this thread. Might I suggest that grown-ups cease to frequent magic producers who aim their products at children? It would save many tears, in the long run, and quite a bit of server space.
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robwar0100 Inner circle Buy me some newspapers.Purchase for me 1 Gazette and 1748 Posts
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On Jul 7, 2015, Chessmann wrote: We were fooled by a very impressive video shot ... no one I performed this for was fooled by it, let alone amazed by it. Thanks for the info, Chessman. Bobby
"My definition of chance is my hands on the wheel," Greg Long.
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