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Lloyd said live performance videos were on their way.. I can't wait!
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Fin,

I use the deck in my left hand as a guide. I know the moment the card gets tilted past the lower right corner of the deck when held perpendicular to the card that the card is now blue.

Thanks for the input.


I'm afraid that I can't take the views seriously of someone who, within a week or so of receiving an effect is using it in their stage set. The opinions of this trick are trending to poor but you obviously are more concerned about the next new thing rather than amazing your audience.



Wow quite a hefty statement!

Maybe you didn't read my previous few posts. I didn't use the card change. I used the coin change. I have confidence in the coin change from a stage platform for two reasons.

1) I worked it into my existing routine as a single moment of magic out of many.
2) I present it in such a way that as long as they see the coin changing, the magic is happening.

Essentially they see the silver coin turn copper and then fade back to silver and then back to copper then into the bucket it goes.


I'm sorry Ray, nothing against you, I just take offense to people inferring that I'm a bad performer because I added something to my stage set. (Some VERY SMALL thing.)

Please don't belittle my performance skills in the future. Especially when you have never seen me perform live Smile
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On Jul 9, 2015, Magic.Maddy wrote:
Fin,

I use the deck in my left hand as a guide. I know the moment the card gets tilted past the lower right corner of the deck when held perpendicular to the card that the card is now blue.

Thanks for the input.


I'm afraid that I can't take the views seriously of someone who, within a week or so of receiving an effect is using it in their stage set. The opinions of this trick are trending to poor but you obviously are more concerned about the next new thing rather than amazing your audience.



Wow quite a hefty statement!

Maybe you didn't read my previous few posts. I didn't use the card change. I used the coin change. I have confidence in the coin change from a stage platform for two reasons.

1) I worked it into my existing routine as a single moment of magic out of many.
2) I present it in such a way that as long as they see the coin changing, the magic is happening.

Essentially they see the silver coin turn copper and then fade back to silver and then back to copper then into the bucket it goes.


I'm sorry Ray, nothing against you, I just take offense to people inferring that I'm a bad performer because I added something to my stage set. (Some VERY SMALL thing.)

Please don't belittle my performance skills in the future. Especially when you have never seen me perform live Smile



I wasn't belittling your performance at all....just your judgement.

Please pay attention.
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Fin,

I use the deck in my left hand as a guide. I know the moment the card gets tilted past the lower right corner of the deck when held perpendicular to the card that the card is now blue.

Thanks for the input.


I'm afraid that I can't take the views seriously of someone who, within a week or so of receiving an effect is using it in their stage set. The opinions of this trick are trending to poor but you obviously are more concerned about the next new thing rather than amazing your audience.


I can't take the views seriously of someone so judgemental!
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Ray is now pwned by robsmonster Smile
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Re: videos, one from Maddy or anyone else isn't likely to change my view of the set. The only video I'm interested in is one from Lloyd. I think the gaffs are poor. I also feel that the effects taught on the instructional tutorial were, overall, poor magic (the magic being limited by the gaffs, imo).

I would like to see Lloyd perform live with each (!) of these gaffs in a manner that equates to the statements that were used to market them.
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Wow, this new item sure has caused a lot of discussion and anger! Here's what I think......if you got this trick and went out and performed it live to an audience, my hat is off to you! You are a much better magician than I. And then, if you got a good reaction......well I have a lot to learn from you! Much respect to you. I didn't have the nerve to perform it after seeing what it was.
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Wow, this new item sure has caused a lot of discussion and anger! Here's what I think......if you got this trick and went out and performed it live to an audience, my hat is off to you! You are a much better magician than I. And then, if you got a good reaction......well I have a lot to learn from you! Much respect to you. I didn't have the nerve to perform it after seeing what it was.



Well thank you Smile
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We have one person so far that is having good results with Change. Is there anyone else reading this forum, anyone at all, that is also having great results with live performances as well? The reason I ask is that I cant find any of my friends or anyone else having luck with it besides Maddy.

It just seems odd to me that I can not find a single person I know who purchased this effect that finds it usable. An honest question for the group.

-Altrez
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Guess I'll chime in here now. I also pre-ordered Change and have played with it a little bit for a couple of days. I don't think I could possibly use any of the gimmicks live except for the blurred kings and maybe the jumping angels, and even that's a little shaky. However, I am not going to return the gimmicks because I'll more than likely use a few of the gimmicks for Instagram or YouTube videos Smile The changes do look great when playing with them in the sunshine, but look like trash indoors with artificial light. Anyways, this is a fun little toy to play with. Oh, I also performed the blurred king for a friend, but had a little trouble making it blurry, but eventually got it to work and he thought is looked pretty sweet. There's my two-cents, please don't roast me Smile
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I had great success with two of the gimmicks today. The color changing card makes a great coaster and I used the coin under the leg of a wobbly table at a restaurant. Both worked like a charm.
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I had great success with two of the gimmicks today. The color changing card makes a great coaster and I used the coin under the leg of a wobbly table at a restaurant. Both worked like a charm.


I'm glad you finally found the use of the gimmicks in a very creative ways. I'm pretty sure even the creator couldn't even imagine to use the gimmicks like that.
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I had great success with two of the gimmicks today. The color changing card makes a great coaster and I used the coin under the leg of a wobbly table at a restaurant. Both worked like a charm.


Well, I guess that's one way of changing magic forever Smile
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Where has Mr. Barnes been? Curiously haven't seen him responding on this thread since he sold out of his miracle effect. Smile
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I had great success with two of the gimmicks today. The color changing card makes a great coaster and I used the coin under the leg of a wobbly table at a restaurant. Both worked like a charm.

lol ,love it.
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Where has Mr. Barnes been? Curiously haven't seen him responding on this thread since he sold out of his miracle effect. Smile


Devils Advocate:" But even if he did come on here, and no matter what he said or no matter how sincere it was...I'm doubtful that anyone would stop attacking him or the product.

So he's probably thought better of it. Which, let's face it, is something everyone here would probably do too.
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There are a couple more iterations on Adam Wilber's instagram page - one of a complete card change, and another with a sharpie printed on, which you then 'pluck' off the card, whilst tilting the card to make the image disappear.

Assuming these new versions are already manufactured and ready to go, I doubt you're going to get any comments from Elusionist about this first batch, as they want to sell the second (and third?) lot.
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On Jul 10, 2015, tdowell wrote:
Where has Mr. Barnes been? Curiously haven't seen him responding on this thread since he sold out of his miracle effect. Smile


Devils Advocate:" But even if he did come on here, and no matter what he said or no matter how sincere it was...I'm doubtful that anyone would stop attacking him or the product.

So he's probably thought better of it. Which, let's face it, is something everyone here would probably do too.


Yes, very true. I must admit I pre-ordered this as well, opened it, and immediately cringed when I saw what it was.
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