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The Russian Mentalist
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Has anyone seen or reviewed Empathy book test by Ed Stein???

https://www.stevensmagic.com/shop/empath......edition/
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I wonder if it's the same as the Grandfather of all Booktests?
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Good thought minty. Mind Guerrilla pointed that out to me as well. So then, what can people tell me about The Grandmother of All Booktests? I am not asking for the method, I am just trying to get a sense of the parameters and restrictions. I.e. Can the volunteer literally turn to any page, choose a word, and you can then divine it? This is the impression that I get from the description. Thank you!
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I have never had the Grandmother of all Book Tests but was very interested when it came out. With the Grandmother, you get a Sherlock Holmes book and you describe a visual item being thought of eg a necktie, dagger or whatever.
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On Jun 22, 2015, Can the volunteer literally turn to any page, choose a word, and you can then divine it? This is the impression that I get from the description. Thank you!


Yes. The volunter can turn to any page, chose a word and you can divine it.
That's true.
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Thank you for the insight NeilS. So is a visual object part of the parameters? I.e. Do you say to your volunteer, "Look for an object in the paragraph that you can visualize."
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Dj do you own The Grandmother of All Booktests?
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On Jun 23, 2015, The Russian Mentalist wrote:
Dj do you own The Grandmother of All Booktests?


Yes, I own Grandmother of all Book Tests.



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Edward Stein did the booktest to me, the german version, but I guess it´s the same principle.
I think that is the closest to real mindreading you can get with a booktest.
By the way, all his material is top notch!!!

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Kiki (and others):

It is clear, from the effect's description on the Stevens website, that Empathy involves an innovative way to discover and reveal a spectator's chosen word from the book. If the spectator's experience includes more than just the chosen and revealed word, I did not pick that up from a single reading of the description. So two questions come to mind:

1. Is there more to it than a single word reveal? If so, what else are the spectator and audience likely to experience?

2. Why is it called the "empathy" book test? This title suggests something like a socio-emotional rapport between the performer and spectator that the description does not feature.

George
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It´s a revelation of a word like other booktests, but you don´t fish for letters, what makes it stronger, I find.
I have seen it live 2 times and it´s as straight as it can be. But it´s just a relevation of one word, if you can live with that.
I can´t imagine a better way of revealing a word from a book, if just the principle of the book is used.

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KiKi & dj, what are the parameters of getting the spectator to choose the word?

I can't imagine that you can have them just choose any random word on the page.

I own and use a number of book tests including MOABT, so I am not looking for the method. I just want to know the parameters of the choice of the word so I know if I am comfortable with the subtlety of the word choice, before I spend $205.00.

Thanks!
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Typo: I meant $250.00
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Pm´ed you!
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Thanks Kiki!
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Kiki,
Could you please PM me the same info that the Russian Mentalist asked you (I just want to know the parameters of the choice of the word to understand if I am comfortable with the subtlety of the word choice before to spend $250) ? Thanks, Gianni
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Kiki,
Thanks for your help - Gianni
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You´re welcome! Smile
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Any more feedback on this? I'm thinking of getting it. Thanks
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Does anyone here who has the GMOABT have any idea where one might be able to locate English versions of the series? My searching efforts have only yielded the German versions.

Feel free to PM if more appropriate.

Thanks,

Elliot
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