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EsnRedshirt Special user Newark, CA 895 Posts 
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In which he explains why it's so difficult for Americans to talk about race. Given the recent events and debates here, I thought I'd link to it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-metta......652.html
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Another joke article from the Huffington Post. That article was actually funny to read. Sorry- but it was even hard to continue reading. Seems the author threw out all the stats about blacks, i.e. children born out of wedlock, children with just one parent, black on black killings etc...
To funny....
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Kabbalah Inner circle 1621 Posts
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The article was so ridiculous, I felt bad for the author...for about thirty seconds.
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So far we have one "interesting" and two guffaws. Anyone care to talk about the content of the article. What makes it interesting? What makes it ridiculous?
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts
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On Jul 13, 2015, EsnRedshirt wrote: Tried reading it and this popped up over the story: Quote:
Like what you're reading? our intra-species racism gets boring and covers up other problems This paragraph almost looks hopeful. Out of the mouths of bigots... Quote:
If I could re-write that story, I'd rewrite it from the perspective of Black America. What if the person wasn't beaten and bloody? What if it wasn't so obvious? What if they were just systematically challenged in a thousand small ways that actually made it easier for you to succeed in life? Then the author goes on to discuss in terms of "Black" and "White" , pandering to bigots on both sides of the game. ... and in the mean time go enjoy the movie Minions.
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Kabbalah Inner circle 1621 Posts
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On Jul 13, 2015, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: If you read the article, this question would be unnecessary.
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I'll bite. Not a bad article, but he does seem to want to lay a lot of the blame at white people's feet. I get where he is coming from and understand the viewpoint. As a white guy, I think he reads too much into the situation, but I don't have the same perspective. What he does not say is the real answer to almost all problems. You have to look at what causes you to be in the situation you're in. My opinion is there is a lot of victimhood in the black community. Rightly or wrongly cause by white people doesn't matter. The power structure is the power structure, you overcome or go around. You don't complain and expect it all to change. Sorry. He also dismisses the gains black have made. He makes vaild points on perceptions and the media. I believe black guys do go to prison more. I think it's more to do with not having money for good lawyers. Also as a proportion of the population, they commit more crimes. I believe they get longer sentences because of crack convictions that should probably be changed.
The points above about single mothers, etc. are valid. Those are demographic changes that have occurred to blacks over the past 40 years. Those changes are often responsible for many of the issues (children of two parent households commit less crime). Whose fault is that? |
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts
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On Jul 13, 2015, Kabbalah wrote: I did and it is. The central idea is that racism is experienced, perceived and spoken about differently by white than by black Americans. I find this neither surprising nor outlandish. And his allocation of blame is surprising and challenging: Quote: Here's what I want to say to you: Racism is so deeply embedded in this country not because of the racist right-wing radicals who practice it openly, it exists because of the silence and hurt feelings of liberal America.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts
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On Jul 13, 2015, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: The notion of lumping others, creating a "they", makes this discussion difficult.
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Kabbalah Inner circle 1621 Posts
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On Jul 13, 2015, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: This is absolutely ridiculous. Sharpton, Jackson and others have made an industry of doing just this. I am not challenged to look at racism? Just everyday.
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EsnRedshirt Special user Newark, CA 895 Posts
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My point was that, even here, I see what he's talking about taking place. People bringing up "White privilege" and "white guilt" and instantly saying, "Well, I'm not racist..." Nobody's accusing a specific person of being racist; they're talking generalities, but too many people are offended and cut off the discussion then and there.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts
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On Jul 13, 2015, EsnRedshirt wrote: all about "them"
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Kabbalah Inner circle 1621 Posts
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On Jul 13, 2015, EsnRedshirt wrote: The discussion and arguments are getting old. People are fatigued by them, including conservative blacks.
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts
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On Jul 13, 2015, Jonathan Townsend wrote: Your categorical denial of the possibility of meaningful grouping is every bit as arbitrary and limiting as Metta's assumption that it is possible.
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