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Michael Rubinstein
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Hi, just wondering how many Café members are currently doing a version, which version if not original, and if its done for stage, parlor, or close up?
Available at dealers EVERYWHERE - RUBINSTEIN COIN MAGIC- The biggest book on coin magic since Bobo's Modern Coin Magic, and the most important since David Roth's Expert Coin Magic! Hardbound, 500 pages, 20 chapters of state of the art coin magic illustrated with 930 crisp photos! A contribution chapter from over 20 of the world's top coin magicians! This will be the book against which all future books on coin magic will be measured! Already called a Modern Classic!!
And if anyone (USA ONLY) needs some of the coin stuff used in the book, shoot me an email at rubinsteindvm@aol.com as I have some limited supplies of coins and props used in the book.
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The only one I have done in the last three months is "Coin Cap" that uses a borrowed baseball cap and winds up with 20 coins of various denominations. Productions from both hands and
hand shown empty between productions. Coins are poured out onto a plate several times after bouncing around in the cap. My favorite uses a metal or ceramic pitcher and different techniques.

Fact is, I have never used a traditional bucket or ended with "nothing" as a finale.
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Yea I have A Few Handling's Both Close-up And Stand-up!
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I doing misses dream on stage. It takes thee phases. First 70 coins appear. A lot of ways from a candle, air, floor, Spectator throw to the coin pail and then appear, a spectator say a number and then that number of coins appear... Second phase is a close up phase where I going down from stage and I take coins from espectator ears, ands, noise, hand etc 30 coins. And tird phase is big finale... It is my version of this classic effect. It also follow a plot and I play a character. It usually takes 18 minutes to perform.

I have a close-up missed dream wich I really love to perform. 7 dollar size appear plus two jumbo dollars as big finale. I is my version, not from no one.

I think it is a real great effect to perform on stage but also. For close up. But it is not easy to do.
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I am working on one with quarters (my dr@&&*r hold 15 comfortably) and I have a hold out that will feed me maybe 25 more at once for a final. I got a $1 bucket at Dollar Tree (the size of a plant pot, no pun intended, I do not "plant pot" Smile ) It is small enough for close up and loud enough for stage. I plan on using it more as a parlor type effect if an event wants a couple "tricks for the room" rather than 100% walk around.
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I've been doing the MD since 1946.Stuart Ross (my first mentor) used a "lard pail"(a common "utensil" in those days,with a dozen GREEN RIVER WHISKEY "COINS". He had two half dollars, one at each end of the stack of "coins". He used two safety pin "droppers",so, I did too. It was the basic TARBELL routine, The routine slowly evolved to the present much simplified routine. For the past 25 years, I've used 5 silver dollars.
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I invite anywhere from 6 to 20 boys and girls (5 to 8 years old) and the entire routine involves the kids.

There is "no set up" and when I finish, I can repeat it almost immediately. IT CLOSES THE SHOW for elementary schools. In high school,it uses 4 boys,and,it's next to closing.

I've experimented with a half dozen different buckets, and now use a "kitchen utensil" bucket.

I've tipped the REAL WORK,to only two other magicians. It's now in my book to be released at Rick Fisher's "MAGIC WEEK" in Colon, Michigan on July 25. I will be at Abbott's Get Together,a week later.

Later in August,I'll be attending the HOUDINI CLUB WEEKEND in Appleton, Wisconsin. Tentative plans are for attending a special evening at Magic Inc. in Chicago and a special evening at Dennis Haney's in Baltimore MD.
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I use MD for kid shows. When I got Chris Capehart's DVD, I changed my routine around to include his audience participation segment. Significantly Improved my routine. I prefer using 2 kids from the audience.
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I been doing Gene Gordon's "The Coin Pail" for the last 30 some years. I used it for stage and platform shows.



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For you guys who do the effect, here is my take. Hope you enjoy!!
http://youtu.be/uQcenD0YOZo
Available at dealers EVERYWHERE - RUBINSTEIN COIN MAGIC- The biggest book on coin magic since Bobo's Modern Coin Magic, and the most important since David Roth's Expert Coin Magic! Hardbound, 500 pages, 20 chapters of state of the art coin magic illustrated with 930 crisp photos! A contribution chapter from over 20 of the world's top coin magicians! This will be the book against which all future books on coin magic will be measured! Already called a Modern Classic!!
And if anyone (USA ONLY) needs some of the coin stuff used in the book, shoot me an email at rubinsteindvm@aol.com as I have some limited supplies of coins and props used in the book.
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On Jul 13, 2015, Michael Rubinstein wrote:
Hi, just wondering how many Café members are currently doing a version, which version if not original, and if its done for stage, parlor, or close up?



Are you going to post the results of your survey somewhere?
Michael Rubinstein
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The answers are right in this section
Available at dealers EVERYWHERE - RUBINSTEIN COIN MAGIC- The biggest book on coin magic since Bobo's Modern Coin Magic, and the most important since David Roth's Expert Coin Magic! Hardbound, 500 pages, 20 chapters of state of the art coin magic illustrated with 930 crisp photos! A contribution chapter from over 20 of the world's top coin magicians! This will be the book against which all future books on coin magic will be measured! Already called a Modern Classic!!
And if anyone (USA ONLY) needs some of the coin stuff used in the book, shoot me an email at rubinsteindvm@aol.com as I have some limited supplies of coins and props used in the book.
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On Jul 14, 2015, Michael Rubinstein wrote:
The answers are right in this section



Yeah I see those.

Discounts on your next DVD for those who reply?
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For you guys who do the effect, here is my take. Hope you enjoy!!
http://youtu.be/uQcenD0YOZo


Hey Dr. Rubinestein, ummmm, can I say something? Something that really bothers me. Your right arm during the introduction. It's just hanging there, and I'll tell you why. Your brain is telling you that you're holding something important so it puts the arm in the natural position for holding something. The problem is you are trying to communicate to your audience that the hand is empty. I spend a lot of my time watching people move, and no one, no one, holds an empty hand like that unless they are a coin magician. It is by far my biggest pet peeve in magic.

You probably won't listen to me because I'm some nobody, but go people watching. Empty hands just drop to the side. They take part in gestures, and then return to the side.
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It's been a while since I've done the Miser's Dream, but when I did, I performed Charlie Miller's routine from Bobo. At one time, I used a kitchen coffee canister.

In the performance above, I also noticed the right hand. It's immobile, frozen, and calls attention to itself by that very fact.

I too am a bit uneasy criticizing a performance by Michael Rubinstein.

It's an interesting take on the Miser's Dream, but I think that part (and only part) of the appeal of the routine is that "clang" every time a coin is thrown into the pail, and that is missing in this approach.
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Ummm, it looked to me as thought that arm in question was moving a bit, and that the other one was gesturing enough to draw attention that way, plus the people there were listening to the presentation, which also draws attention up that way and away from the right arm. But still, he gestured frequently with the right arm.
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Anyone interested in the Miser's Dream should get and study study study Levent's DVD. It truly is the "Ultimate Guide" that the title proclaims it to be.
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Actually, I don't disagree with your observations. On camera, the hand does look a bit stiff, and that is because there is a need to hold out during the intro. I don't know that I entirely agree with smile, as I gesture with both hands and never leave my arm limp unless I am standing still or walking. Here it was an unusual situation, and I was asked to show my new bit to my staff, and needed to hold out until the magic began. In real time I do the trick as a closing number, and load up when I go into my pocket as I say I rap, to get out a chain with a big star of David (which I didn't have at the hospital). That being said, performing for the public is a bit different than having the hand burned on camera. The routine was also done a bit faster than usual, as I needed to perform during a busy workday witha lot of stuff going on at the hospital.
I only put it up here because I thought you guys would enjoy an example where the presentation supercedes the magic, and with the topic on the pail I thought it was topical. Ray, I always agree that the sound enhances the illusion. You can hear the coins clinking as they go into the hand, perhaps that is lost on the filming. Anyway, my hope was not to put this up for any other reason then just to have some fun.
Available at dealers EVERYWHERE - RUBINSTEIN COIN MAGIC- The biggest book on coin magic since Bobo's Modern Coin Magic, and the most important since David Roth's Expert Coin Magic! Hardbound, 500 pages, 20 chapters of state of the art coin magic illustrated with 930 crisp photos! A contribution chapter from over 20 of the world's top coin magicians! This will be the book against which all future books on coin magic will be measured! Already called a Modern Classic!!
And if anyone (USA ONLY) needs some of the coin stuff used in the book, shoot me an email at rubinsteindvm@aol.com as I have some limited supplies of coins and props used in the book.
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I will say that it took me 3 seconds to realize you were holding a coin in your right hand. Your argument that you never have your hand limp is refuted by the first 2 seconds of that video. When you are not doing a magic trick your hand is at your side. The second the performance starts, it raises to an awkward position.

I'm not meaning to attack you or anything. This is just something I see so many top coin workers do, and I don't think any of them realize what they are telegraphing. 55% of what we communicate is nonverbal, and even if the spectator never consciously notices something, it still diminishes the effect.
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On Jul 15, 2015, cheesewrestler wrote:
Anyone interested in the Miser's Dream should get and study study study Levent's DVD. It truly is the "Ultimate Guide" that the title proclaims it to be.


It is a must have dvd...
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On Jul 15, 2015, cheesewrestler wrote:
Anyone interested in the Miser's Dream should get and study study study Levent's DVD. It truly is the "Ultimate Guide" that the title proclaims it to be.


It is a must have dvd...


Levent performed his misers dream at a recent convention and fooled the heck out of most, if not all the attendees. His take on this classic is the best ive ever seen.
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