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ro333 New user 2 Posts |
So after I read a lot on web, I really want to learn mentalism.
I heard about "Thirteen Steps to Mentalism by Tony Corinda", and "Practical Mental Magic by Theo Annemann", but I'm not sure if I should learn like that. Is there any better suggestion? thanks. |
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Philemon Vanderbeck Inner circle Seattle, WA 4697 Posts |
Professor Philemon Vanderbeck
That Creepy Magician "I use my sixth sense to create the illusion of possessing the other five." |
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
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On Jul 14, 2015, ro333 wrote: Why don't you introduce yourself and let us know a bit about you first? Like, who are you, where are you from, and why do you want to learn mentalism? Are you a performer of any kind (magician, etc.)? |
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Sven Rygh Inner circle Oslo, Norway. 1945 Posts |
First step:
Be tatooed.
WWW.SVENRYGH.NO
"Keep it as simple as possible, - but no simpler" http://www.svenrygh.no/sven-rygh/presse/nrk-forst-og-sist/ http://www.svenrygh.no/video.html |
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
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On Jul 15, 2015, Sven Rygh wrote: Well, yes. There's that. |
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bevbevvybev Inner circle UK 2674 Posts |
Also: Piercings and a hat
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cboscari Regular user 119 Posts |
I heard that if you have tattoos, a hat and piercings, Brad Christian gives you a discount. So I've heard.
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Fire Starter Inner circle 4810 Posts |
You will also neeed a beard.
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Philemon Vanderbeck Inner circle Seattle, WA 4697 Posts |
And the ability to raise just one eyebrow in a quizzical fashion.
Professor Philemon Vanderbeck
That Creepy Magician "I use my sixth sense to create the illusion of possessing the other five." |
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
Having your forefinger surgically attached to your chin or temple is also a plus.
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
Plus a spring fan of esp cards and a goatee...
I've asked to be banned
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RCP Inner circle Two Minnie's in The Hell's Half Acre, The Republic of Texas 2183 Posts |
Can you grow a goatee?
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Zee Regular user Leonia, NJ 196 Posts |
Learning card manipulation might help
PS: Artful Mentalism 2 by Bob Cassidy. I consider it as a mentalism starter kit. |
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
I never considered the Artful Mentalism books to be for beginners. They're really not. Don't forget that the full title of the original "Fundamentals," which is the foundation of second volume of Artful Mentalism, is "Fundamentals of Professional Mentalism, not "Mentalism for Beginners."
For absolute beginners I always recommend Annemann and Henry Hay. |
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Zee Regular user Leonia, NJ 196 Posts |
Hmm.. I have been listening and following your advice since I ever got into mentalism. I guess I have to make some changes in my book quoting you.
Would you recommend Artful Mentalism 2: Fundamentals for those who are not absolute beginners? For example, for those who wanted to learn mentalism so bought bunch of mentalism related products but still miserable? When I was getting into mentalism, I started with Cog and moved onto Peter Turner's materials, but I still had no idea where I am heading. And I accidentally discovered your book, Artful Mentalism 2. I bought it and I felt like it was bible to me. I felt like I finally understand some of mentalism and more I read it, more valuable it gets. I remember what it felt like when I was reading this book so I have been recommending for everyone. |
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Zee Regular user Leonia, NJ 196 Posts |
I mixing mentalism with magic a long time before getting cog, but cog made me to decide to become a mentalist, so I consider cog as my starting point of mentalism which was very miserable.
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Nestor D Special user France (Paris) 830 Posts |
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On Jul 15, 2015, Zee wrote: If the original poster still listen to this he should definitly read the above post, Mr Cassidy's book (or Henry Hay's "The Amateur Magician's Handbook" from cover to cover if he is a complete newcommer to the magical world) and avoid things like COG and the work of Mr Turner while he is still new to the field. |
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
The problem in starting with the newer stuff that's come out in the last ten years, is that most of it is based on foundations which were laid over the last century. And a good deal of it is simply rehashed material pitched to those who DON'T have a solid education in mentalism.
Yes, the new generation of mentalists has taken us in interesting new directions and has given us some innovative material. But it's impossible to know if a direction is new or promising if you don't know what journeys and explorations came before. And the best place to start any journey is at the beginning. Start with Hay, then Annemann and then, maybe Corinda and some of the other classics I listed in The 39 Steps. Then you'll have an understanding of some of the principles and thinking that inspired my own(and my contemporaries') writings and creations many decades later. And you'll have a much better understanding of the things that people are always arguing about around here. |
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truman Special user 635 Posts |
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On Jul 15, 2015, Nestor D wrote: Respectfully, I don't see the wisdom of reading "The Amateur Magician's Handbook" from cover to cover if one is interested in mentalism and doesn't have a background in magic. The first few chapters describe a mindset and approach that I believe is what merited the book a place in Bob Cassidy's 39 Steps. I don't believe that the intention was for newcomers to mentalism to read descriptions of card sleights, coin manipulation, and the other magic tricks in the book before moving on to Annemann and the rest. But hey, I could be wrong. |
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
Yes, the opening chapters are required reading, IMO. But I read Henry Hay's book from cover to cover dozens of times when I was starting out. The card sections contain invaluable information to the mentalist (his stand up dove-tail riffle shuffle, the pinky break peak and the bottom deal are sleights that I've used for well over forty-five years, and the coin sections gave me valuable insights into the natural handling of billets. (The Martin Chapender vanish, for example, allows for one of the cleanest billet moves possible.)
But it was the mentalism section that introduced me to Annemann and led to my life-long devotion to the art. |
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