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Just went to the GW store over the weekend (my son is getting interested in miniature games and I wanted to pick up a unit for him*) and spotted the "9th Edition replacement" for Fantasy Battles, called "Age of Sigmar."
It's a pointless skirmish game.

I mean that quite literally- there are no longer point values for any units. You could show up with your old 2000 point army and play it against someone with 30 models, and the only concession to fairness was they could pick a 'sudden death victory condition' for being so badly outnumbered, such as killing a specific character or unit of your choice (which you can park at the corner, surrounded by defenders), or holding a specific point of ground on the fourth turn.

Additionally, there's no ranks and blocks of troops- everything moves in loose formation like in 40k now. Which I find exceptionally boring.

I guess they did it to try and lower the barrier to entry- ranked units cost a lot in terms of real money, but that's mainly because GW's been inflating the cost of their plastic for years now- and fielding 2-3 units and a hero for a 500 point army could easily cost $150... and average battles usually ranged closer to 1500 or 2000 points (so, maybe $500+ for an army, plus the time it takes to paint all those models.) Still, if I wanted to play a skirmish game, I'd just play 40k.

Anyway, if it sounds interesting, the rules are all available for free. Me? If I ever pull out the armies, I'm going to have to look for an alternate system. I hear Kings of War is pretty decent, and it's easy to use old Warhammer units as your army.

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I think I am happy I don't understand a word of the above.

signed,
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You and your son may enjoy these games, very nice minis! They just need some paint!

Star Wars: Imperial Assault
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/1641......-assault


Battlelore (Second Edition)
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/1464......-edition

Forbidden Stars
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/175155/forbidden-stars
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Thanks, lunatik, I'll see if they warrant a deeper look... but my son's 6, so his strategy is currently "move models, roll dice, complain if any guys get knocked down." I'm adding some tanks to the lineup for our next few games, which might encourage deeper strategy, or maybe not.

We're using this rule set, with one or two additional house rules (can't run when in melee range, if you fire guns into a melee, you've got a 50% chance of hitting your own model):
http://www.dominowriting.com/SimpleMinisRevised.pdf
It's cool, and very easy to learn, and you can use action figures, lego guys, stuffed animals, or basically anything you've got laying around.
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On Jul 21, 2015, landmark wrote:
I think I am happy I don't understand a word of the above.

signed,
Grumpy Old Man


That's precisely what I was thinking.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats
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I was wondering how a thread titled "...all you gays who happened to play Warhammer..." got past the mods, but then I realized that I had misread.
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On Jul 20, 2015, EsnRedshirt wrote:
Just went to the GW store over the weekend (my son is getting interested in miniature games and I wanted to pick up a unit for him*) and spotted the "9th Edition replacement" for Fantasy Battles, called "Age of Sigmar."
It's a pointless skirmish game.

I mean that quite literally- there are no longer point values for any units. You could show up with your old 2000 point army and play it against someone with 30 models, and the only concession to fairness was they could pick a 'sudden death victory condition' for being so badly outnumbered, such as killing a specific character or unit of your choice (which you can park at the corner, surrounded by defenders), or holding a specific point of ground on the fourth turn.

Additionally, there's no ranks and blocks of troops- everything moves in loose formation like in 40k now. Which I find exceptionally boring.

I guess they did it to try and lower the barrier to entry- ranked units cost a lot in terms of real money, but that's mainly because GW's been inflating the cost of their plastic for years now- and fielding 2-3 units and a hero for a 500 point army could easily cost $150... and average battles usually ranged closer to 1500 or 2000 points (so, maybe $500+ for an army, plus the time it takes to paint all those models.) Still, if I wanted to play a skirmish game, I'd just play 40k.

Anyway, if it sounds interesting, the rules are all available for free. Me? If I ever pull out the armies, I'm going to have to look for an alternate system. I hear Kings of War is pretty decent, and it's easy to use old Warhammer units as your army.

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* Using the Very Simple Generic Miniatures system with one or two house rules.


You do know that like most live action games the internet games have vanquished them right? It is 2015 people do not gather in moms basement as much any more. They gather one at a time and play online.
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More than 56,000 people getting together for a week to play!

http://www.gencon.com

And a bigger one in Europe is Essen one of these days I'd like to go!

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