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peter teagle Regular user Redditch, UK 195 Posts |
I was wondering if there is a 'standard' size of multiplying billiard ball set that would be right for an average sized hand.
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
You really have to try different sizes and find which one works best for you and your own hands. There is no one right answer to this. However, a majority of manipulator find that the 1 and 3/4 inch works quite well.
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peter teagle Regular user Redditch, UK 195 Posts |
Thanks, Kyle
I've just got the Jeff McBride World Class Manipulation vol 1 and the balls he uses, Fakini, didn't look huge. He did use a bigger ball for a one ball routine and I just wondered what sizes he was using, my hands seem to be of a similar size to his. It would be an expensive mistake to buy the wrong size Fakini's!!
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boltt223 Regular user Arizona, USA 175 Posts |
What I did was go to the local Wal-mart and got some superballs to help determine what size would be best. Then after some experimentation with different sizes bought the Fakini's.
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-The Scot- Special user 726 Posts |
For the majority of the tape, Jeff used 1 3/4" billiard balls, but for the multiplying balls routine - it was a 2" set. He looked like he was struggling with the last ball though, if you ask me.
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
1 and 3/4 inches has worked best for my own personal use. I would also reccomend doing what Bollt suggested by going to a toy store and checking out different bouncy balls in various sizes to see what works best for you.
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peter teagle Regular user Redditch, UK 195 Posts |
Thanks Kyle and Kevin that's a great help!
Kevin, I did notice the balls seemed to change size at certain points in the DVD! One thing Jeff McBride said which made me smile was that he used 'balls of all SHAPES and sizes' I just wondered what other shapes balls came in!!! peter
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
Peter,
He may have meant the Vernet balls as they are round but have a texture to them which kind of changes the shape a bit. Kyle
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peter teagle Regular user Redditch, UK 195 Posts |
Kyle
Mmmmm!! Not sure he meant it that way, I think he meant colors! Anyway, made me smile! peter
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
McBride was commenting on the "Sponge Multiplying Balls" when he made that statement. The sponge balls will go flat if you let them while between you fingers.
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WoodRat Loyal user California 233 Posts |
How much do you guys love the fakini balls?
I have a set of the old red, wooden, german-made balls. I don't care for the look of the Vernet balls I have seen at the local shop. The red wooden balls tend to slip if I do not go through my "ritual" to get my fingers limber and properly moist. Sometimes, I'll peel an orange... gives my fingers a nice tackiness and leaves them smelling good too ;-) They are 1-1/2" and I know I could go bigger. But the fakinis are so expensive... I am saving my allowance but also want a better set of cups... what a dilema... So anyway, how good are the fakinis? Is it possible to get just the shell and match it with a cheaper toy store balls? WoodRat
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xxxRoyxxx Loyal user 218 Posts |
Fakini's are the best of the best!!! I haven't done it but I guess it would be possible to match a shell with toy store balls. Anyone done this... Really, the price of the balls is well worth it and you will actually thank yourself that you spent so much money on balls!
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Larry Barnowsky Inner circle Cooperstown, NY where bats are made from 4770 Posts |
"So anyway, how good are the fakinis? Is it possible to get just the shell and match it with a cheaper toy store balls?"
I have white Fakini 1 3/4 balls and for color changes I use the identical size silicone ball that you can get in a toy store. They fit the shell perfectly so if you just have the shell you could save some money. You will find that the casting seem on the Fakini ball is barely noticeable compared to the toy store balls. You do get better quality with the Fakini. They are worth in mind the investment. |
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Aperazor Loyal user Akron,Ohio 244 Posts |
I fought the idea of getting Fakini balls for quite a while, they just seemed ridiculous in price and then heard stories of having to wait forevever to get what you want...
I only live a couple hours from House of Fakini and called them directly and they would have cost me more than ordering from a dealer. Then a couple weeks ago I seen a set of white Fakinis with 4 colored balls on EBay with Buy It Now for $108. It killed me to hit the button but I bought them and I don't regret it at all. I love these things. I still think that with the price tag they should be hand delivered by Playboy Bunnies but I'm glad I finally pulled the trigger and got them. I sold one of my old guitar amps to do it but it had been sitting around unused to long and I still have two others. Anyway I think they are worth having and you can still get a deal on E-bay from time to time. Best of luck Nick Zender |
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
I have a set of white Fakini balls 1 3/4 inch in size and love them. they simply are the best billiard balls on the market and they have always worked great for me.
As others have stated, you can do color changes by buying some colored bouncy balls in the same size at your local toy store. It works pretty nice and keeps your cost down. So are Fakini's worth the investment? In my own mind, YES! Kyle
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boltt223 Regular user Arizona, USA 175 Posts |
There is no doubt that if you do billiard ball manipulation Fakini IS the way to go. My set is 1 3/4" and I have had nothing but success using them. Pay a little more and get the best.
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WoodRat Loyal user California 233 Posts |
OK,
Looks like I'm going down to Wal-Mart to find some cheapo balls for stretching out my grip... while I save up for the fakinis! Anyone have some good pointers to non-gaffed routines/info?
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Aperazor Loyal user Akron,Ohio 244 Posts |
WoodRat,
The multiplying golf balls are less than $10 and they are actually great for the price and will definately help you build routines and ideas while saving up for the Fakinis. Check them out Nick |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
Richard Ross and McBride tapes have none gaff routines. Be prepared to work a long time on the handling.
I have a set of Fakini Multiplying Golf Balls from 30 years ago. This is when he included the 4th ball solid ball. You could use real golf balls, plastic practice golf balls, or superballs to practice. |
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
Woodrat:
I do a full 3 min routine using regular balls only. I would be more then happy to work with you on a routine and help you out. The best way to start is by simply learning the various moves and sequences. This will build up your library and it is from this library that you can pull from to create your routine. Take your time with it, tape your practices and wotk on the proper handling of the various moves. Do not be so eager to put a routine together just yet. That will come in time. You have to learn to walk before you can run. Kyle
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