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I will be having Kosher snaps wrapped in fried Kosher bologna for dinner!

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Why kosher?
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Why kosher?


All beef.
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I often buy all beef weiners. Does that mean they're kosher?
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Not necessarily. They might even be Halal.
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Not necessarily. They might even be Halal.

No. They couldn't be halal.
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Why?
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Because I would never purchase, nor consume a halal hotdog.
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But you didn't know whether the hot dogs you purchased were kosher or not, so you can't be paying too much attention.

"Kosher meats, which are consumed by Jews, are permitted to be eaten by Sunni Muslims.[12] This is due to the similarity between both methods of slaughter [that is, halal and kosher] and the similar principles of kosher meat which are still observed by the observant Jews today"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halal
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Yes. I was paying very close attention. that's how I know they are Maple Leaf Top Dogs and Schneiders Red Hots.
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But you didn't know whether the hot dogs you purchased were kosher or not, so you can't be paying too much attention.

"Kosher meats, which are consumed by Jews, are permitted to be eaten by Sunni Muslims.[12] This is due to the similarity between both methods of slaughter [that is, halal and kosher] and the similar principles of kosher meat which are still observed by the observant Jews today"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halal

So what you are saying (in part) is that kosher meats may also be halal even if they are not labelled as such?
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Yes. I was paying very close attention. that's how I know they are Maple Leaf Top Dogs and Schneiders Red Hots.

If those are the standard Maple Leaf Top Dogs and Schneiders Red Hots, I'll go out on a limb and guess they are neither kosher nor halal.
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But you didn't know whether the hot dogs you purchased were kosher or not, so you can't be paying too much attention.

"Kosher meats, which are consumed by Jews, are permitted to be eaten by Sunni Muslims.[12] This is due to the similarity between both methods of slaughter [that is, halal and kosher] and the similar principles of kosher meat which are still observed by the observant Jews today"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halal

Incorrect. I asked the OP what a kosher hot dog was. He answered all beef. I have purchased all beef. So if allbeef means kosher, I wondered if my all beef Schneders were automatically kosher.
That's all.
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Let's all read what the National Hot Dog and Sausage Council has to say about kosher dogs (NB apparently kosher dogs do NOT have to be ALL BEEF, they may also include poultry):

http://www.hot-dog.org/culture/kosher-hot-dogs

In addition to meeting USDA requirements, Kosher meats are processed according to the rules of one of several Kosher supervision agencies. In Kosher packing plants, specially trained 'mashgichim,' along with USDA inspectors, oversee all operations.

Unlike livestock in non-Kosher plants, Jewish law requires that livestock not be 'stunned' prior to slaughter. Meat derived from these animals is then Koshered by first salting and then thoroughly rinsing to remove impurities. During processing, the meat is trimmed of certain fats, all veins and arteries.

Kosher hot dogs also are made from beef or poultry that has been slaughtered according to Jewish law.
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I'm just having fun with magicfish.

The laws for kosher and halal are very very similar in terms of prep and slaughter of the animal. The difference is really essentially only in the religious blessings said. In order to be called kosher, the proper slaughter must be followed AND the rabbi must say the correct Jewish blessings. In order to be halal, the (same) slaughter must be followed, AND the imam must say the correct Islamic blessings.

Fun fact: In New York State for a long time (not sure if this is still true) all beef sold here was slaughtered in the kosher manner, whether ritually blessed or not, because it was less expensive for everyone that way.
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But you didn't know whether the hot dogs you purchased were kosher or not, so you can't be paying too much attention.

"Kosher meats, which are consumed by Jews, are permitted to be eaten by Sunni Muslims.[12] This is due to the similarity between both methods of slaughter [that is, halal and kosher] and the similar principles of kosher meat which are still observed by the observant Jews today"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halal

Incorrect. I asked the OP what a kosher hot dog was. He answered all beef. I have purchased all beef. So if allbeef means kosher, I wondered if my all beef Schneders were automatically kosher.
That's all.


So that was his mistake. There is more to "kosher" than "all beef." You should Google "Hebrew National Uncle Sam commercial" They actually list the things the Government will allow in hot dogs that they can't.
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On Jul 23, 2015, magicfish wrote:
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On Jul 23, 2015, landmark wrote:
But you didn't know whether the hot dogs you purchased were kosher or not, so you can't be paying too much attention.

"Kosher meats, which are consumed by Jews, are permitted to be eaten by Sunni Muslims.[12] This is due to the similarity between both methods of slaughter [that is, halal and kosher] and the similar principles of kosher meat which are still observed by the observant Jews today"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halal

Incorrect. I asked the OP what a kosher hot dog was. He answered all beef. I have purchased all beef. So if allbeef means kosher, I wondered if my all beef Schneders were automatically kosher.
That's all.


So that was his mistake. There is more to "kosher" than "all beef." You should Google "Hebrew National Uncle Sam commercial" They actually list the things the Government will allow in hot dogs that they can't.


I made no mistake, and, I was not asked what a Kosher dog is. What I was asked was this...

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Why kosher?


My reply was because they are all beef (at least the ones I buy are).
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I'm still puzzled as to why you'd wrap a hot dog in bologna. Why not wrap a slice of bread around the bun while you're at it.
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