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John Long
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On Jul 25, 2015, Mark_Chandaue wrote:
Unfortunately my bobo's is the 1966 hardback edition and I think the pages aren't quite in the same places as yours but I suspect we are in the same ball park. That particular methodology was my field of expertise.
Mark



The page numbering is identical, up through the end of the paperback version. Yet, I can understand why you may think otherwise. I at least am unsure of what Jonathan was referring to.

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@ Mark
Uses your Coin Switch the same method as can be seen here in the video of Persus Arkomanis?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl......vOE#t=83
The difference is, in the video of Persus Arkomanis a coin just disappears.


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Not sure exactly how what Mark is doing here is done but have some thoughts on it, as his excitement about it seems to say that it works differently from how it appears…I don't know but just hope it's something more than what I have thought from the little I know of things. Anyway, I look forward to his book. Best of luck with it. Smile

As to Persus Arkomanis in the video here (thanks dj), Smile well, his methods to do all of what he's doing is something that I have sang the praises of since for always on this forum. Smile

Some of the big names that laud his work there tell basically of the great deception he plays with, and very well I must say. Smile You can do all sorts of things with it, I know because I use it a bit myself when I'm as "prepared," and love it! Smile

*One trick he does there, "Coin Thru Glass Table" looks a lot like something that Michael Eaton put out a while back now -Anyone remember that one? Looks to be done about the same way sorta, to me. Wonder if Persus knows that?

Truth be told here, I've never heard of Persus before (but I probably haven't heard of a lot of folks), Smile but he's quite good and I enjoy watching him work here, as I happen to also love his particular method as to coin magic…It's still very much one of the absolute best IMHO, especially when done well like that. Smile
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I am not sure what Mark is doing in his video, but Persus Arkomanis seems to be doing what was described in the above mentioned section of Bobo, but he does it sooooo well, so smooth, so covered. Then again, maybe it is a totally different method.

Mark: although your intent is to use your sleight as what some call an invisible switch, for purposes of getting comments from the Café community, better contrasting coins, and a static focus of the camera would help. Beyond that, send a PM to someone who is well versed in coin work, like MB or Michael, and see if they would interact more directly with your work.

Best;
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Hi John,
I posted it purely for demonstration purposes. My intent isn't to use it, my intent is to share it with the community, I have already been using it successfully for over 35 years. I am more than well versed enough in coin magic for the purposes of this switch despite no longer following or performing coin magic these days. I first shared this switch with Bobby Bernard in around 1979, Bobby was more than well versed enough in coin magic back then as was I to be honest. Since then it has been shared with Michael Vincent and a few other friends in the early 80's including John Carey. Michael Ammar was granted permission to publish it in 1991 for a project he was planning that never came to fruition.

These days I use it purely in a Mentalism context and it does exactly what I need it to do just as it did when I used it for coin magic. The video does exactly what I intended it to do, it demonstrates how invisible the switch is whilst proving that one actually took place. When I have demonstrated the switch to magicians in person they generally don't believe I really switched the coin. That's all the feedback I need.

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Hi mark you state you want to share with the community
I(m not sure what you are doing
however if you want to share can you show us the handling

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Hi mark you state you want to share with the community
I(m not sure what you are doing
however if you want to share can you show us the handling

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On Jul 27, 2015, Mb217 wrote:
Not sure exactly how what Mark is doing here is done but have some thoughts on it, as his excitement about it seems to say that it works differently from how it appears…I don't know but just hope it's something more than what I have thought from the little I know of things. Anyway, I look forward to his book. Best of luck with it. Smile

Why hope the method is anything other than practical and within easy reach? Methods are always secondary to the effect as seen by the spectator. Methods need not be clever or unique they merely need to be fit for purpose and practical. In the case of this switch (and any other switch for that matter) how it appears to the spectator is the important thing, the how is not important beyond is it practical, reliable and workable.

As to the book, unfortunately it will only really be of interest to mentalists there is very little in there beyond this coin switch that would appeal to magicians even the coin effects that utilise the switch in the book would not be of much interest to coin magicians as they are mentalism effects. There are some subtleties in the coin bend routine that may be of interest but generally there are far more impressive coin routines in bobo's or Kaufmans than can be found in the pages of my book. However people have been pushing me to release the switch for donkeys years and so I am finally doing so. If people wish to use it great, if they don't that's great too but it has served me well for many many years.

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Vinny,
If you meet me in person I will be more than happy to show you the handling, this is true of the full contents of my book. Otherwise the handling will be fully detailed in the book and I will probably put this out as a video download along with the coin effects from my book and some other coin material not suited to my book in the near future.

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...Anyway, I look forward to his book. Best of luck with it. Smile


Why hope the method is anything other than practical and within easy reach? Methods are always secondary to the effect as seen by the spectator. Methods need not be clever or unique they merely need to be fit for purpose and practical. In the case of this switch (and any other switch for that matter) how it appears to the spectator is the important thing, the how is not important beyond is it practical, reliable and workable.

As to the book, unfortunately it will only really be of interest to mentalists there is very little in there beyond this coin switch that would appeal to magicians even the coin effects that utilise the switch in the book would not be of much interest to coin magicians as they are mentalism effects. There are some subtleties in the coin bend routine that may be of interest but generally there are far more impressive coin routines in bobo's or Kaufmans than can be found in the pages of my book. However people have been pushing me to release the switch for donkeys years and so I am finally doing so. If people wish to use it great, if they don't that's great too but it has served me well for many many years.

Mark


I am one that believes in "easy reach," less is more," and the simpler the better, since specs don't know exactly what you're doing anyway, and neither do they care really. They simply respond to the magic of it all.

With that, "You're welcome, and have a great day." Smile
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Very smooth and clean.

However, I'm with Jonothan Townsend here - how does this differ from what is in Bobo? It is described for switching in a cigarette thru quarter gimmick.

I've been using this for the last year:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1m_X4ijUMY&feature=youtu.be

And I'm not sure how our methods differ. Mine is basically straight from Bobo, but may have been influenced by watching Persus's video too.
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It is smooth, different and fast but am wondering if it can be accomplished with bare arms?
Your hands work well compared to mine at 79.

Thank you Mark,

Bob
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Very smooth and clean.

However, I'm with Jonothan Townsend here - how does this differ from what is in Bobo? It is described for switching in a cigarette thru quarter gimmick.

I've been using this for the last year:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1m_X4ijUMY&feature=youtu.be

And I'm not sure how our methods differ. Mine is basically straight from Bobo, but may have been influenced by watching Persus's video too.



Y'know, when I initially responded here, what I was saying (perhaps not so good?) wasn't that I was hoping that the move wasn't attainable, but more so that I wanted it to be something new and or unique.

If it happens to be along the lines of what you are doing David in the video, like Persus and others I've seen, or that which is described in Bobo's, well then I would be somewhat disappointed, as that is a move that I have seen and known about for decades as well. Ive even played with it myself, as have many others probably, in relative ways. Still, I will wait to read Mark's book and see what it says. Smile In the meantime, perhaps Mark will comment on what you so easily did in the video here, and what dj posted as to Persus?

That Mark has been doing (perhaps "using") this move for 30 or more years as his own, is to be respected until (if at all) proven otherwise. I still "hope" that it is something unique. Again, not hoping it is something hard or difficult but to perhaps see something new unearthed or even created from something old. But if not quite unique, I will still appreciate Mark's usage and fine-tuning of it, and bringing it more thusly forward here. And Mark, I think I seem to faintly remember you here, perhaps some old videos on YT or something??? Hmmmmmm.
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Especially since it's the Cleanest Coin Switch Ever
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I can appreciate that a Mentalist needs to be better at sleights than a Magician since being caught can be fatal, and they may need only one, good switch in a show,

For Magicians using several swiches in a series of effects, "being unique" or "cleanest" might not be as important as the ability to use a different method every time.

The "best method" for any effect is the one that "never happened" within the framing and flow of the effect in the mind of the observer.

I would be interested in learning this approach to add to my arsenal, but would never use it all the time even if it is "the cleanest."

With crippled fingers, misdirection is easier to manipulate than coins. Thus, "cleanest" is relative and only one factor in "unique."
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...I at least am unsure of what Jonathan was referring to.
John


There's a few pages of discussion about how to use [ ] right in the middle of page 111... Smile
DrEMR has some of his routines a few pages later in the book.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Thanks; that's what I eventually came to think.
I should read about EMR's routines - I'm far from having gone through Bobo
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