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Wild Card is another old chestnut I've recently dusted off, after years of neglect. In re-familiarizing myself with this effect, I seem to have several old sets of instructions for it from various manufacturers, which vary from each other with regard to the "reveals" at the end... and none of which I particlarly like, or find compelling or convincing.

Since there seem to be a variety of ways of performing this effect, I'm wondering: what are everyone's favorite ways of doing the "reveals" at the end, transforming the eight tabled cards (four face down, four face up) into duplicates of the lone Wild Card?

Also, what sorts of patter or plot do people like to use in the presentation? There must be something more interesting, or more with a plot or a logical motive, than to just announce, "Here are eight identical cards... now, watch... BOOM! Now, for some reason, they're eight other identical cards." (Why?)

Finally, is there really a good reason to start out with eight duplicates, plus the Wild Card (which all those other duplicates turn into duplicates of?) Might it work just as well if you started out with eight random (different) cards, which then all became the same as the Wild Card? Is there some difference in dramatic impact I'm missing here?
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Check out Wiz Kid Qua-Fiki's "Wild Reindeer Games" from The Wizards' Journal #23 or my "Death and Taxes" from the Tarot Card Book Section of The Creepy Shoppe of Little Horrors.

In "Reindeer Games" Qua Fiki begins with eight Santas, like all the Santas you see on every street corner at Christmas, but then they turn into eight completely different (named) reindeer plus Rudolph for the finale.

In "Death and Taxes" I start with eight completely different Tarot Cards, which begin to turn, one by one, into "Death" cards and the punchline finale is when the Taxman appears.

So, to answer your question, yes you could start with eight different playing cards, random or a winning hand, that could all turn into a single Wild card, or a lollapaloosa (all cards losing) into a winning hand with or without wild cards. It's your choice and you just have to work it out to come up with the flashy finale you want to achieve.
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I don't think it gets any better than this:



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On Jul 28, 2015, karnak wrote:
Wild Card is another old chestnut I've recently dusted off, after years of neglect. In re-familiarizing myself with this effect, I seem to have several old sets of instructions for it from various manufacturers, which vary from each other with regard to the "reveals" at the end... and none of which I particlarly like, or find compelling or convincing.

Since there seem to be a variety of ways of performing this effect, I'm wondering: what are everyone's favorite ways of doing the "reveals" at the end, transforming the eight tabled cards (four face down, four face up) into duplicates of the lone Wild Card?

Also, what sorts of patter or plot do people like to use in the presentation? There must be something more interesting, or more with a plot or a logical motive, than to just announce, "Here are eight identical cards... now, watch... BOOM! Now, for some reason, they're eight other identical cards." (Why?)

Finally, is there really a good reason to start out with eight duplicates, plus the Wild Card (which all those other duplicates turn into duplicates of?) Might it work just as well if you started out with eight random (different) cards, which then all became the same as the Wild Card? Is there some difference in dramatic impact I'm missing here?
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I don't think it gets any better than this:



Neither do I. The best of all presentations!

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Tommy Wonder's is extraordinary. Have never done it because I don't feel I could do it justice
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Dear Inigmntoya,
Thank you so much for posting that link. That presentation was magnificent, a delight to watch - an inspiration in fact. Thank you again.
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On Jul 28, 2015, karnak wrote:
Wild Card is another old chestnut I've recently dusted off, after years of neglect. In re-familiarizing myself with this effect, I seem to have several old sets of instructions for it from various manufacturers, which vary from each other with regard to the "reveals" at the end... and none of which I particlarly like, or find compelling or convincing.

Since there seem to be a variety of ways of performing this effect, I'm wondering: what are everyone's favorite ways of doing the "reveals" at the end, transforming the eight tabled cards (four face down, four face up) into duplicates of the lone Wild Card?

Also, what sorts of patter or plot do people like to use in the presentation? There must be something more interesting, or more with a plot or a logical motive, than to just announce, "Here are eight identical cards... now, watch... BOOM! Now, for some reason, they're eight other identical cards." (Why?)

Finally, is there really a good reason to start out with eight duplicates, plus the Wild Card (which all those other duplicates turn into duplicates of?) Might it work just as well if you started out with eight random (different) cards, which then all became the same as the Wild Card? Is there some difference in dramatic impact I'm missing here?



Start performing variations to audiences comprised of non-magicians and see where that takes you. So many times I've heard magicians analyze an effect. They dissect it to death trying to find contextual meaning and emotional responses yet NEVER PERFORM THE EFFECT to see how it plays for lay people...I think if we all performed magic as much as we discuss it, magic would be a much more appreciated art by the general public.
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On Jul 28, 2015, karnak wrote:
Finally, is there really a good reason to start out with eight duplicates, plus the Wild Card (which all those other duplicates turn into duplicates of?) Might it work just as well if you started out with eight random (different) cards, which then all became the same as the Wild Card? Is there some difference in dramatic impact I'm missing here?


I know I haven't studied a lot of Wild Card presentations, but I've seen quite a few and they either start out using the glide or the Hamman count to show the "faces" of the non-Wild cards. These sleights lead to duplicates being shown - though it isn't necessary that they all match. At a minimum, you will have 4-pairs of duplicates visible.
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On Jul 28, 2015, karnak wrote:
Finally, is there really a good reason to start out with eight duplicates, plus the Wild Card (which all those other duplicates turn into duplicates of?) Might it work just as well if you started out with eight random (different) cards, which then all became the same as the Wild Card? Is there some difference in dramatic impact I'm missing here?



Look here: https://vimeo.com/115813699

Idon't use the Hamman Count.
I changed Vallarino's Wild Card routine a little, only the beginning.
At the beginning I show 8 cards without wild card.
When I showed the eight cards, now I show the wild card.





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Tommy's routine is my favorite, with Eric DeCamps' routine from the Stars of Magic video coming in at a close second.
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Jon Racherbaumer's Wild Card Kit has a lot of information that would be of interest to anyone pursuing this plot. You can view the contents and get an ecopy from L&L here:
http://llepub.com/index.php?main_page=pr......ts_id=45
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On Jul 29, 2015, inigmntoya wrote:
I don't think it gets any better than this:





Inigmntoya, I could watch that Tommy Wonder performance over and over again! Just superb.

A few years ago, I heard that someone had developed a little programmable beeping timer to use with Tommy's routine. Are they still available, and does anyone know where they can be purchased?
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One word : Tommy Wonder. Smile
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I've been doing one with Jacks where all the Jacks are different famous Jacks (Jack Nicholson, Jack Sparrow, Jack Nicklaus, etc) that sell their soul to the devil (the deuce, 2) for fame. It helps to have a story that differentiates the cards that are all the same.
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Another great variation of the wild card concept is Peter Samelson's "Invasion of the Body Snatchers". It has a great storyline that relates back to the original "Body Snatchers" movie. While I love Tommy Wonder's "Tamed" routine (and I have Card-Shark's version of the cards), Peter's "Body Snatchers" takes the cake in my opinion. Here's a video of it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywu5MduTkgI

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Tommy was truly a wonder...extraordinary timing, patter, stichk, superb ability and showmanship that fascinated and entertained across the world. The Tamed Cards routine is one of my all time favorites. Tommy's early passing deprived countless others of laughter and amazement at the hands of a master. Tommy truly was one-of-a-kind in magic entertainment.
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I agree with J-Mac, the Body Snatchers is a great premise, especially at this time of year.
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A few years ago, I heard that someone had developed a little programmable beeping timer to use with Tommy's routine. Are they still available, and does anyone know where they can be purchased?


Just so you know, you don't need an expensive programmable beeper or remote control unit for this- our Wiz Kids have used a regular Supermarket Kitchen Timer Beeper that can be tucked under a wrist watch wrist band and set off with the press of a button. It takes a few seconds for anyone to hear it and recognize it as some kind of alarm. Everyone usually looks around to see who is beeping, and then the Wiz Kid suddenly realizes it is coming from his "watch", shuts it off and continues with why it was beeping (it has more uses than just with Tommy Wonder's Tamed Wild Card routine - so it is well worth the couple of bucks to buy and carry one around).
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I saw Peter Samelson perform his Invasion of the Body Snatchers version of Wild Card in 1976, when I was relatively new to magic, and I never forgot it. How's that for creating a lasting impression???

I will second J-Mac's suggestion. Samelson's routine elevates the effect from something that puzzles your audience to a piece of intimate magical theater.
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