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I have been to hypnotist and at various shows but I am always told that I can't (actually they say won't) be hypnotized, or I am a terrible candidate. I have suffered with anxiety and panic most of my life I do not know what relaxed feels like. It would be nice to get relaxed with out a chemical dump running through my veins. So what is it that can cause a person to be unhypnotizable ;D.
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Thinking they can't be hypnotized!
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Paul, learn to meditate. That puts you in control of your relaxation. Transcendental meditation, mindfulness, autogenic training, anything along those lines.

As for your question, if you over-think things it can make you more difficult to hypnotise. Not impossible if you go to someone with a good range of skills, but impossible if you go to a one-trick hypnotist who treats all clients the same way. So it depends on how good your hypnotist is.
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I will have to try some of these meditation methods. Prayer is a form of meditation correct? Since 19 I have been on edge I hear tiny noises,feel every twich and so on.
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Try some youtube medidations or hypnosis sessions. I have many, as do many other people.
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Thinking they can't be hypnotized!


I have no idea who mindpro is but he/she really knows their ****.

Hypnosis is anxiety. It's not relaxation. This is the biggest misconception in hypnosis and why so many fail. If all you do is relax someone and give them commands, it's not hypnosis, it's just asking for a favor from a relaxed subject. Hypnosis involves overloading the critical factor in order to reach the subconscious mind which is best achieved with anxiety and confusion. In a clinical setting, I love those with anxiety because they tend to be easier to work with. You are only a challenge to someone who is inexperienced. If a hypnotist modifies his hypnosis sessions to every individual client like he is supposed to then nobody is ever impossible to hypnotize. You're not the problem, the hypnotist is and you should find someone that knows what they're doing.
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I have no idea about clinical songs.

On stage of you try too hard it is probably not going to work
If you worry about it then it probably won't work. And if you ask yourself a conscious question, such as "am I hypnotized?" it probably won't work.

That is to say probably won't work in that song at that time. This does not speak to if it will or won't work in smoother seeing.

But if you are convinced you can't be hypnotized then odds are you never will be.
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The clinic said my OCD/hypochondriasis is preventing acces to my dream state(some term like that). It was explained to me that as the hypnosis is being initiated a detection device in my skull notices a change and re focuses my attention to this change thus blocking out the hypnotist. So in a round about way he basically told me Im too neurotic to be hypnotized. I was also told by a friend magician that Im wound up so tight that even if I was hypnotized it would be no fun, he said Im so...nuts that any suggestion of missing numbers or things of that nature would be treated by my "brain damaged" head as a kin to suggesting murrder and be rejected.

I did not know it was actually anxiety that would help things. What about meditation?

Posted: Aug 4, 2015 01:33 pm
What does it feel like to be hypnotized? Is it dangerous? I have read things that state you cannot force through hypnosis a person to murder or other things of that nature unless its something they have no objection to. Does that mean hypnotizing a sociopath could have dire consequences? Just curious.
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Being a sociopath itself can have dire consequences regardless of hypnosis.
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Woah, you didn't mention that. That does make it significantly harder to hypnotize you but still not impossible. All it would take is a little extra work to create an induction and a deepener or two that would compliment your "brain damaged head". IMHO the only people that it would be impossible to hypnotize are those with severe learning disabilities or maybe deaf people, although I wouldn't be surprised if someone figured that out yet. People come to hypnotherapists specifically for help with mental issues like the ones your describing so you are in the majority, not the minority.

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There are really three basic "feelings" of hypnosis even though there are multiple levels of trance. The first and most common is what I call the "skeptic state" because it literally feels like you are intentionally keeping your eyes closed and playing along until you feel how deep you were when I count you back up. These are the lighter levels of trance which are where most work is done. The next feeling feels similar to that except it's more of an equivalent to having a daydream. You're half here and half in your own separate world. This state is used when it's necessary to go deeper for stronger issues or during guided meditations. Then there is the somnambulistic state which almost nobody uses. This is the state that most people think all hypnosis is because you are completely unconscious. You're not asleep but that's what it feels like. You don't remember anything that happened and it seems like you just closed your eyes for a minute and now its an hour or two later. I've only met one hypnotist in my life that worked in this state and that's because she worked with extremely traumatized victims that would physically convulse if they weren't unconscious due to the intensity of the retrieved emotions.

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No. It's not like brain surgery where if you don't know what you're doing, you can screw someone up for life. In fact, you have to know what you're doing to screw someone up for life. If you're nervous then treat it as you would a normal therapist, find someone that you trust and only work with them. Hypnosis isn't as definite as it's made to seem. If a hypnotist put you under and then died of a heart attack, you wouldn't be trapped in at trance for the rest of your life. You would either come out naturally or fall asleep and then wake up normally. There's nothing to worry about with hypnosis at all, in fact you can even do it over Skype or YouTube.

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I have read things that state you cannot force through hypnosis a person to murder or other things of that nature unless its something they have no objection to. Does that mean hypnotizing a sociopath could have dire consequences?


Yes, you can't make anyone do something that is against their moral code. You can make people do things that they normally wouldn't do but you can't combat beliefs that directly. Hypnotizing a sociopath would only lead to murder if the hypnotist intentionally used that command and the sociopath took it. Hypnotizing a sociopath for anything else does not equal murder, though.
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On Aug 3, 2015, Gbhunter77 wrote:
I will have to try some of these meditation methods. Prayer is a form of meditation correct?

Some forms of prayer (the Christian tradition of contemplative prayer, for instance) are meditation. But most forms of prayer are not.

For someone who has the issues you have I would recommend getting someone locally to train you in the basics of meditation. You are not passing over control and I feel it could work for you. Your local Buddhist centre, a TM teacher, or a mindfulness coach are available in most urban centres and all would be delighted to help.

Hypnosis feels different depending on what you are being hypnotised for. It can feel like anything from full awareness, focused awareness, to sleep. Meditation feels like an ever deepening relaxation and a clearing of the mind, with reduced awareness of your surroundings. But not a trance. You will be aware of things in the outside world, but you will not pay heed to them. I know that is vague, but it is the best I can come up with.
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The states you guys describe are very similar to something that is caused by barbiturates. Is this why they are referred to as hypnotics?
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Boy, you're trying to tag this along with many other things. You are way over thinking this. You are likely thinking your way out of allowing yourself to be hypnotized. The worst thing for conditioning a mind is analytics.
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Not at all I'm trying to have something to compare hypnosis too. The closest I got is barbiturates.
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Yes, that is why the class of drugs is called a "sedative-hypnotic"
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Excellent if that's mildly how hypnosis feels with out the insane side effects Im in!
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Here are the two biggest problems I can see. First of all OCD is one of the most difficult things to work with. Hypnosis alone won't do much long term. Secondly your focus is totally wrong. Like just about every hypnotist or hypnotherapist I know this thread bangs on about hypnosis. Where in fact you should be talking about the problem you want to solve. Hypnosis shouldn't even be mentioned its just a tool. Its NOT the goal or the objective. By itself its not a magic pill.

Your goal should be the outcome you want. Not being "hypnotized".

Don't come to a stage hypnosis forum for advice on therapy you will get some crazy information and advice.

"Hypnosis is anxiety. It's not relaxation." Totally nuts.

Seek the help of specialists that work with OCD/hypochondria... basic hypnotherapy is a waste of time.
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May I suggest Enrique's "Act of Imagination" as something the OP may wish to read.
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Interesting stuff. I find the answer to be twofold.

One: Completely trust the hypnotist. Without the trust, forget it! You most likely will not achieve results.

Two: Relax. You must relax your mind and roll with the hypnotist you trust.

Richard Nongard is dead on. Anesthesia is a chemical replicant of the brain waves that allow you to feel no pain under a deep hypnotic trance.
Hypnosis is natural, drugs are chemical.

Good luck in your quest
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I did not know it was actually anxiety that would help things. What about meditation?



I would recommend these guys: https://www.headspace.com/

They have helped me tremendously with anxiety.
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