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seamagu Special user 885 Posts |
I do like the randomness of it too
I love post its
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twistedace Inner circle philadelphia 3772 Posts |
Simon's system is fantastic and yes it is a second secret identity. I actually secretly mark my cards with the number of the position in the stack so after I do mem deck routines it can be shuffled and I still instantly know which card is selected by simply looking at the secret number on the back. I learned Simon's stack a few years ago and use it almost daily. It really didn't take a long time to learn and the possibilities are endless.
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Tim Cavendish Inner circle 1404 Posts |
Mind and memory are strange things, and they work differently with different people.
My wife has astounding procedural memory for complicated art-making processes of all sorts, and for playing music. But simple dates and times fall straight out of her head. I easily make associations between numbers, which gives me mental hooks to hang them on. This is foreign to her. I have a octogenarian magician friend who knows people's names associated with things in the field of magic, but can't summon them on demand. They're in his head and they're accurate, but he has trouble accessing them. Yet he has fantastic procedural memory for tricks old and new -- he's always learning new tricks. It's good to have different systems for learning things. |
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
I score very high in the visual/spatial elements of IQ tests...i can visually/mentally create shapes and objects, and I can often judge people's shoe sizes, height and distances (for real)...
but ask me to memorise even a fairly short sequence of numbers and I'd be lucky to remember 4 on the bounce...
I've asked to be banned
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
Can a very bright 6 year old do it?
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JanForster Inner circle Germany ... when not traveling... 4190 Posts |
Yes
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Atlas Inner circle 3103 1277 Posts |
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On Aug 12, 2015, Slim King wrote: Great question - Let's see! PM me your email address and when it is done I'll send it over. Best, Atlas |
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J-L Sparrow Regular user 167 Posts |
Very nice stack, Atlas. It does indeed look quite random.
I have to admit, though, that certain parts of it look just like my own personal stack that I invented back in early 2014. (Please don't think that I'm accusing you of stealing my stack. I'm not. I know you didn't steal it simply because I never made my stack public!) In fact, eleven of the cards in your stack have the exact same position in my stack. It's likely that only one of them (the Three of Diamonds) is just a coincidence. But as for the other ten, maybe it has something to do with great minds thinking alike! ...And there are a few other cards that, while they're not exact matches, are fairly close to each other in our stacks, which suggests that we were thinking along similar lines. It's kind of nice that there's a stack out there that shares similarities to my own. One thing I liked about my stack is that "it made sense to me." While I don't expect many to understand what I mean by that, I wouldn't be surprised if you understood. -- J-L P.S. For the record, I eventually decided to make the switch to the MBCS (Richard Osterlind's Memorized Breakthrough Card System) for reasons this post doesn't cover. I still review my own invented stack from time to time, however. |
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On Aug 12, 2015, JanForster wrote: Jan - It is a lot like dieting and losing weight. Many would rather take a pill or see a plastic surgeon rather than exercise each day and eat healthy food in moderation. The "holy grail" is always tempting - and there is a big market for holy grail. I have yet to learn a stack - so shame on me. But when I do, and it will be soon, I will learn it well.
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peculiarone Veteran user Fence almost done. I've already put in 324 Posts |
[quote]On Aug 12, 2015, J-L Sparrow wrote:
Very nice stack, Atlas. It does indeed look quite random. But as for the other ten, maybe it has something to do with great minds thinking alike! BLANK MINDS THINK ALIKE! |
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Paul Fitzgerald Regular user Panama City, Panama 124 Posts |
Atlas showed me this memorised deck in Newcastle a few weeks ago and performed a couple of routines with it.
If you've not got a mem deck this is worth taking a look at...very quick to pick up with a few golden rules. I think you'll enjoy very much performing the routines he includes also. Cheers, Paul. |
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insight Inner circle 3095 Posts |
Hi Atlas,
When you say that the deck can be handled by the participant, can you elaborate on what you mean? What does the spectator actually do in reality when handling the deck? Thanks! Regards, Mike Quote:
On Aug 12, 2015, Atlas wrote: |
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Atlas Inner circle 3103 1277 Posts |
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On Aug 13, 2015, insight wrote: Hi Mike, I just mean that you can hand them the pack and not be worried at all that they'd find anything amiss. To answer your second question, there is a very nice thought of card routine that I do with The Solution. The deck is in their hands the entire time, and they can choose any of the 52 cards. Best, Atlas |
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Chris K Inner circle 2544 Posts |
You said beginning of October, right Atlas? Are there any more details? Please just yell at me if you already offered more and I somehow missed them in the thread.
Thanks, Lem |
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SittinDuK New user Greenville, SC 18 Posts |
For what it's worth the Joyal Stack is what got me finally on the road to memdeck work. Having something that finally clicked I found I was over the hump and could memorize any deck. Hopefully this stack from Atlas can be a gateway for more guys to get started down a fascinating road!
Have you written up any simple routines to go with it Atlas? I've got a few pieces I adore using that are great for starting with stacks. |
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robd Loyal user 251 Posts |
Quite confident to leave the stack out there for people to work out...
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ddyment Inner circle Gibsons, BC, Canada 2499 Posts |
SittinDuK wrote:
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For what it's worth the Joyal Stack is what got me finally on the road to memdeck work. Having something that finally clicked I found I was over the hump ... This is an instructive story: it's always good to be reminded that there are different approaches to memorizing a full-deck stack, and what works well for one may not do so for others. Whichever of the four memorization techniques we ourselves use, it is wise to be familiar with the others, in order to help those who are struggling, and may be unaware of alternate approaches. Looking forward to seeing what Atlas has come up with.
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insight Inner circle 3095 Posts |
Awesome...thanks! I am very interested in this!
Regards, Mike Quote:
On Aug 14, 2015, Atlas wrote: |
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KPhilip New user Around the Globe 57 Posts |
Hello Atlas,
Looks interesting, can you tell a little about the ways you can get into the stack? For instance from new deck order? Best, Kevin |
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pnielan Regular user Northern California 154 Posts |
Jan,
Agreed that each card should be associated with a secret identity, but not that is "by accident" that the secret identities are 1, ..., 52. The secret identities are useful primarily because our brains already KNOW that 46 comes after 45 (for example). If the secret identities of each card were names like: "Franz, Gunther, WIlliam, Ludwig", you would not know that glimpsing William on the bottom of the deck would tell you the top card. Am I missing something? P |
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