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JoeJoe Inner circle Myrtle Beach 1915 Posts |
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On Sep 14, 2015, Dannydoyle wrote: No I am not clueless Danny - and before you start changing to topic to "survival situations", perhaps you should be reminded that I was homeless for six years where I would walk into the wilderness for weeks at a time without any "money". That is the problem there - you are the clueless one - you don't know how to live without money. Here is a clue for you: money was invented during a hunter gather society so that resources could be rationed; today, we don't live in a hunter gather society and there is no reason for us to ration resources and act like prehistoric cavemen with our wars and conflicts and prisons ... blah ... there is a better way to live life than that!! With as much food as we throw away, we have absolutely no need to be rationing food ... denying people food simply because they don't have any money - I don't care how many people want to insult me here, it is still *******!! http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkb......le-food/ -JoeJoe
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
So you want us to walk in the wilderness without money? Idiotic.
Yes my first post was right.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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JoeJoe Inner circle Myrtle Beach 1915 Posts |
Of course not - I now own a house that has been paid for in full with no bank mortgage. I want the same thing for everyone, not just the rich people. We don't have to give up our lifestyle to start treating everyone equally.
Giving up money is inevitable ... you just don't realize it yet. That is the "end game" scenario - where we produce enough resources that everyone can have what they need and nobody has to fight for anything. That is what all this "production" is about, although a certain segment of society doesn't realize this - they think money is some sort of "high score" in life. No, it is not. Much like racism, the love of money is something we are taught - not something we are born with. -JoeJoe
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Salguod Nairb Room 101 0 Posts |
JoeJoe's Brave New World...
We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness...
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
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On Sep 14, 2015, JoeJoe wrote: But you never address the glaring errors in your 4 year olds comprehension of life. While you were wandering in the woods did you have Internet? And what level of lifestyle do you want everyone to be equal at? One you choose? Who decides? Thanks but keep your nonsense utopia and try to convince a 4 year old.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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JoeJoe Inner circle Myrtle Beach 1915 Posts |
When I was wandering in the woods, you didn't have the internet either.
-JoeJoe
Amazing JoeJoe on YouTube[url=https://www.youtube.com/user/AmazingJoeJoe]
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The Hermit Veteran user 301 Posts |
You're still wandering.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
What evidence do you have that giving up monet is inevitable? Please note I asked for evidence not imaginary friends opinions.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Tom Jorgenson Inner circle LOOSE ANGLES, CALIFORNIA 4451 Posts |
My new favorite expression:
"You cannot wake a person who is pretending to be asleep." -- Navajo proverb
We dance an invisible dance to music they cannot hear.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
My father used to tell me that "you can't use reason to talk someone out of a position they didn't use reason to get into. "
I'm sure he heard it somewhere.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Steve_Mollett Inner circle Eh, so I've made 3006 Posts |
My favorite expression:
Meh! Give it a rest already!
Author of: GARROTE ESCAPES
The absurd is the essential concept and the first truth. - Albert Camus |
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kambiz Inner circle Perth, down by the cool of the pool 1129 Posts |
Joejoe,
What does justice look like in this Charter? Is there any concept of justice at all? Kam
If I speak forth, many a mind will shatter,
And if I write, many a pen will break. .....and when I consider my own self, lo, I find it coarser than clay! |
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
There is no need for justice since, without money, there will eventually be no crime. Those criminals, anarchists, dissenters, misfits, miscreants, and assorted riff-raff who remain, will simply be put at the top of the list of those marked for humane elimination in the population control program.
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NYCTwister Loyal user 267 Posts |
JoeJoe, how do you think we can negate the fact that, - those who are worth more than others, in terms of ability, deserve more than others?
Utopian ideas, not derived from reason, always seem to leave this out of the equation.
If you need fear to enforce your beliefs, then your beliefs are worthless.
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kambiz Inner circle Perth, down by the cool of the pool 1129 Posts |
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On Sep 15, 2015, NYCTwister wrote: The charter clearly posits that ability does not equate to worth. "Worth is an illusion" is a response I can imagine Joejoe giving you (shhhh don't tell anyone, let's see if he does ) Kam
If I speak forth, many a mind will shatter,
And if I write, many a pen will break. .....and when I consider my own self, lo, I find it coarser than clay! |
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NYCTwister Loyal user 267 Posts |
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On Sep 15, 2015, kambiz wrote: I know that the charter states that. The charter is wrong.
If you need fear to enforce your beliefs, then your beliefs are worthless.
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Salguod Nairb Room 101 0 Posts |
Do you dislike your reflection and feel like trash? Well, I offer perfection just surrender your cash! Don't strive to succeed; we'll just lower that bar. Diversity? No need. Look! On your belly, a star!
We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness...
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Intrepid Inner circle Silver Spring, MD 1179 Posts |
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On Sep 13, 2015, JoeJoe wrote: JoeJoe, I have more great news for you. You might be unfamiliar with it, but there exist a grass roots movement whose aim is to financially punish those who engage in unnecessary, wasteful and inefficient business practices, while at the same time rewarding those who are innovative in streamlining processes so as to provide consumers with cheaper and better products and services. It is the secret behind kick starter and Uber. And best of all, it doesn't require an educational brainwashing scheme to work. It's working right now and taps into man's most basic and natural habits. A habit that is so ingrained in our nature that its practices go back to those of native Americans, the Egyptians, the Inca, and predates recorded time. Its the secret that has permitted societies to function efficiently. Of keeping people fed without resorting to population control. That strives to maximize the benefits to the consumer and minimize waste. It is the secret driving force behind innovations that have allowed us to continue to feed a world who's population has double within just two generations. It is beautiful in both its simplicity of implementation and its flexibility to bend to everyone's diverse personal interests and needs. It allows selling home owners the choice of putting a For Sale by Owner sign in front of their house or using an agent. Or giving investors the choice of using an investment manager or opting to manage their investments them selves. What is this secret grass roots movement? It's man's age old practice of bartering, of trading goods and services. Every day consumers are hunting for the best bargains and sharing their findings with others. It's the free market forces at work to force innovations and improve efficiencies. Its the force that pushes each of us to work harder for the benefits of everyone else. Some will always complain that the glass is half empty, that it's not the utopian dream, but when you look at how many more mouths we have to feed, and how much the world has changed in 150 years, I'd say man's age old drive to create and innovate are pretty amazing.
Bob
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
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It's the free market forces at work to force innovations and improve efficiencies. Almost all of the world's people currently live under the so-called "free market" system. Look around. How well do you think the world is doing?
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NYCTwister Loyal user 267 Posts |
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On Sep 15, 2015, landmark wrote: "So called" free market is right. Actually free market not so much, and that's the problem.
If you need fear to enforce your beliefs, then your beliefs are worthless.
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