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Michael Rubinstein
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Hey Café members! You we so helpful with a line for one of my routines, I was hoping you could help me again. The premise is that I produce 4 coins one at a time in an entertaining manner, but in order to get to the second phase of the trick I need to vanish the coins, then go into my pocket to get them. The sleights are irrelevant here. I produce the fourth coin out of my mouth, and pretend to place it into my hand which presumably holds the other three. Now I need a line to make them vanish, and take them out of my pocket. I discarded the premise of offering to have them examined, then opening my hand to show them gone, and pulling them out of the pocket. I am now using this: I say that the coin was feeling a bit down in the mouth, so I think I will let these rest for a while (show they are gone), and use the ones I had all along in my pocket. But not too happy with that. Any ideas?
First edition and reprint of Rubinstein Coin Magic sold out in RECORD TIME! The good news, though, is that I have reprinted the book once again (they are selling like hotcakes!), so there are enough for everyone!! As such, and for the last time, I again have a limited supply of books that I can sign. All come with a special FREE GIFT until supplies are gone, so first come, first serve! To order, be sure to send me an email at rubinsteindvm@aol.com . The books are here and ready to ship!
RUBINSTEIN COIN MAGIC- The biggest book on coin magic since Bobo's Modern Coin Magic, and the most important since David Roth's Expert Coin Magic! Hardbound, 500 pages, 20 chapters of state of the art coin magic illustrated with 930 crisp photos! A contribution chapter from over 20 of the world's top coin magicians! This will be the book against which all future books on coin magic will be measured! Already called a Modern Classic!!
And if anyone (USA ONLY) needs some of the coin stuff used in the book, shoot me an email at rubinsteindvm@aol.com as I have some limited supplies of coins and props used on the book.
S2000magician
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The first thought that occurs to me is to start the production with a question: Would you like to see an illusion?

At the end, explain that what they saw was, in fact, an illusion, and show them that the coins have vanished (indeed, never existed at all).

Then go to your pocket to get the real coins.

I may have other thoughts - people here can attest to that, although it's rare - but that was the first.
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The first thought that occurs to me is to start the production with a question: Would you like to see an illusion?

At the end, explain that what they saw was, in fact, an illusion, and show them that the coins have vanished (indeed, never existed at all).

Then go to your pocket to get the real coins.

I may have other thoughts - people here can attest to that, although it's rare - but that was the first.


I think this is great. It solves many presentational dilemmas.
Danny Doyle
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The first thought that occurs to me is to start the production with a question: Would you like to see an illusion?

At the end, explain that what they saw was, in fact, an illusion, and show them that the coins have vanished (indeed, never existed at all).

Then go to your pocket to get the real coins.

I may have other thoughts - people here can attest to that, although it's rare - but that was the first.

I think this is great. It solves many presentational dilemmas.

Thanks, Danny.

But, to be fair, you're a friend, so you're not remotely my harshest critic.
Michael Rubinstein
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The second part of the trick is the main part, and I start off by talking about performing a classic of coin magic, but need to borrow four half dollars. When my assistants say they don't have them, I say that magicians always have coins hanging around, you just have to know how to find them. Then I produce coins from the air, my nose, from the ear, and finally from the mouth. I have a line from another trick that is in line with your thought, that magic is nothing more than an illusion, and since its an illusion nothing ever happened (show the vanish), so I should start by getting the coins from the pocket. It would work, but I think there might be something better out there. But good to get a variety of ideas, and thanks for helping!
First edition and reprint of Rubinstein Coin Magic sold out in RECORD TIME! The good news, though, is that I have reprinted the book once again (they are selling like hotcakes!), so there are enough for everyone!! As such, and for the last time, I again have a limited supply of books that I can sign. All come with a special FREE GIFT until supplies are gone, so first come, first serve! To order, be sure to send me an email at rubinsteindvm@aol.com . The books are here and ready to ship!
RUBINSTEIN COIN MAGIC- The biggest book on coin magic since Bobo's Modern Coin Magic, and the most important since David Roth's Expert Coin Magic! Hardbound, 500 pages, 20 chapters of state of the art coin magic illustrated with 930 crisp photos! A contribution chapter from over 20 of the world's top coin magicians! This will be the book against which all future books on coin magic will be measured! Already called a Modern Classic!!
And if anyone (USA ONLY) needs some of the coin stuff used in the book, shoot me an email at rubinsteindvm@aol.com as I have some limited supplies of coins and props used on the book.
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Then I produce coins from the air, my nose, from the ear, and finally from the mouth.


". . . but that's a little unsanitary, what with flu season and all [show hands empty, coins gone], so I just carry them in this little purse."

Take small purse out of pocket.

"Only magicians carry these. . . . Also grandmothers."

Open it and show empty.

Shake it hard and let four coins fall out.
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On Oct 8, 2015, S2000magician wrote:
The first thought that occurs to me is to start the production with a question: Would you like to see an illusion?

At the end, explain that what they saw was, in fact, an illusion, and show them that the coins have vanished (indeed, never existed at all).

Then go to your pocket to get the real coins.

I may have other thoughts - people here can attest to that, although it's rare - but that was the first.

I think this is great. It solves many presentational dilemmas.

Thanks, Danny.

But, to be fair, you're a friend, so you're not remotely my harshest critic.


Nicer need for harsh for harsh sake. It is always presentationaly odd when a magician makes something appear, then later has to reach into his pocket to get that same object. The idea of it being an illusion solves this issue.

Along with a couple other things it really is an elegant solution.
Danny Doyle
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Here is an albeit somewhat childlike theme:

Have you ever noticed that coins pop up in all sorts of hiding places? Dryers, sofas, even occasionally right out on the street. Those types of coins are called kangaroo coins because they hop all over the place. Look, there is one here, and one here, another here, and if you aren't careful they can even hop in here (mouth).

Come nightfall all little kangaroos hop back into mom's pouch, but I only have this pocket for them.

And a bit more dry philosophical version:

Being an entrepreneur means being able to see money making opportunities all around you... like here, and here, everywhere you look, and everything you say leads to making money. And it is said that if you took all the money in the world , put it on jumbo jets and dropped it all around the world, rather quickly it would find its way back to the entrepreneurs.

Cheers,

Tom
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If you are holding firm at just a line...

Handing the "coins" out as you open your hand above theirs...

"Ew, don't touch those, you know where they have been. Let's use these clean ones."
Michael Rubinstein
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Danny you are right about having to go to the pocket after doing the production. I originally did this effect by holding out the 4 coins plus something extra, and I could do it, but its hard, with a couple of extra issues I wanted to remove. This option is much easier for me, but as you say, not as elegant. That is why I need a real kicker of a line to validate making them disappear and getting them again from the pocket. The other problem is that the production is not the effect, but done to extend the effect I perform afterwards. The illusion idea could work, as could the idea that the coins flew away during flew season, and the last line about being too dirty to examine would work well. Have to mull over the other ideas here since I haven't had time yet to study them well. Again, thanks to all for your help, and if you think of anything else, that would be awesome.
First edition and reprint of Rubinstein Coin Magic sold out in RECORD TIME! The good news, though, is that I have reprinted the book once again (they are selling like hotcakes!), so there are enough for everyone!! As such, and for the last time, I again have a limited supply of books that I can sign. All come with a special FREE GIFT until supplies are gone, so first come, first serve! To order, be sure to send me an email at rubinsteindvm@aol.com . The books are here and ready to ship!
RUBINSTEIN COIN MAGIC- The biggest book on coin magic since Bobo's Modern Coin Magic, and the most important since David Roth's Expert Coin Magic! Hardbound, 500 pages, 20 chapters of state of the art coin magic illustrated with 930 crisp photos! A contribution chapter from over 20 of the world's top coin magicians! This will be the book against which all future books on coin magic will be measured! Already called a Modern Classic!!
And if anyone (USA ONLY) needs some of the coin stuff used in the book, shoot me an email at rubinsteindvm@aol.com as I have some limited supplies of coins and props used on the book.
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Problem with flu session jokes and to dirty jokes is personally I wouldn't go there.
Danny Doyle
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I wouldn't either, but know many who do. And they are good at it.
Michael Rubinstein
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I tried several approaches, but my first method was best, so I abandoned the pocket idea. Here is the version I will more or less use. Although the lines and location of each production has changed, the idea is this:
https://youtu.be/nmgoVC0TUGQ
First edition and reprint of Rubinstein Coin Magic sold out in RECORD TIME! The good news, though, is that I have reprinted the book once again (they are selling like hotcakes!), so there are enough for everyone!! As such, and for the last time, I again have a limited supply of books that I can sign. All come with a special FREE GIFT until supplies are gone, so first come, first serve! To order, be sure to send me an email at rubinsteindvm@aol.com . The books are here and ready to ship!
RUBINSTEIN COIN MAGIC- The biggest book on coin magic since Bobo's Modern Coin Magic, and the most important since David Roth's Expert Coin Magic! Hardbound, 500 pages, 20 chapters of state of the art coin magic illustrated with 930 crisp photos! A contribution chapter from over 20 of the world's top coin magicians! This will be the book against which all future books on coin magic will be measured! Already called a Modern Classic!!
And if anyone (USA ONLY) needs some of the coin stuff used in the book, shoot me an email at rubinsteindvm@aol.com as I have some limited supplies of coins and props used on the book.
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Impossible!
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