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Howie Diddot
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On Nov 11, 2015, TonyB2009 wrote:
Howie, you make a great secretary. You have found your vocation. Thank you for repeating this whole pointless thread.

Michael, I agree with you in large. There is a miniscule chance of a child choking on a burst modelling balloon. It hasn't happened yet (we all know that the publicity surrounding that would have brought it to our attention). It may happen in the future, but it may also happen in the future that a rabbit will trigger a fatal asthma attack in a child. My point, and everyone bar one agrees, is that we soldier on as we have been, because it is actually safe.

What Howie's point is - aside from being divisive and argumentative - eludes me.


Tony;

I am not copying the thread, I am attempting to make my point clear since my points elude you; you have problems understanding and absorbing and you forget what is written in the earlier posts, so I feel it is necessary to remind you; you think the thread is pointless because you don't understand the point of the thread

First you think there is a minuscule chance of a child choking on a burst modelling balloon; you would not consider the tragedy a minuscule chance if the dead child is your child.

Second, there is a documented video of a child choking and dying because of a balloon; the video does not point out the type of balloon, or who handed the balloon to her; she is dead because she choked on a balloon; you just don't care who dies as long as you can sell your balloon swallowing DVD's.

Michael has made very good points; your problem is, you don't read and you don't understand the posts.

your are the one being divisive and argumentative

I guess you find dead children an acceptable loss of life as long as you do not have to face the issue of balloons being a serious and real choking hazard, acknowledging a danger and advise new balloon twisters to heed a warning to be observant and to be sure that deflated and busted balloons are picked up while they are working as a balloon twister.

Members like Rook Starpower and Michael who are posting good points are being buried because of your greed to defend your DVD sales and your narrow view
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On Nov 11, 2015, Howie Diddot wrote:
The thread is dead; I won't spend the time answering your comment in your post.

If only we could believe that.

This thread was dead right from your first argumentative post.

If I had any respect for you I would find your characterization of me as an uncaring person willing to see children choke to death to sell DVDs deeply offensive. But everyone reading these silly pages will know I have not pushed my DVD or book here. Not only have I not pushed them, I have not mentioned them.

Why don't you do us all a favour and let this drop?
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This thread has really opened my eyes as to what it means by magicians helping magicians. After reading this thread, I took my rabbit out back, said my goodbyes and took a knife to its throat. I skinned it, cooked it up in a nice cacciatore sauce and served it over pasta. My stomach was a little upset afterwards -- maybe I'm allergic to hossenfeffer or just didn't put enough carrots in the cacciatore. I also took my two bags of twisting balloons and tossed them in a nearby river so that they would never get in the hands of children or present a hazzard to anyone. I felt good because all the fish seemed to be eating the balloons for lunch. Heck, I could only make a balloon sword and a balloon fish (which really looked like 2/3rds of a snowman turned sideways).

I've replaced the rabbit act and the balloon twisting with a wonderful game effect:

http://www.worldmagicshop.com/spike-stage-size/

an amazingly visual demonstration:

http://www.ellusionist.com/pyro-handheld......ber.html

and a great version of out of this world:

https://www.vanishingincmagic.com/magic/......stcards/

Now I can claim to be the best rated children's entertainer in the world to perform using dangerously sharp objects, fire balls and nudity.

[NOTE: no rabbits, fish or children were actually harmed in the writing of this post]
~David

Any perception of reality is a selection of reality which results in a distortion of reality.
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On Nov 11, 2015, Howie Diddot wrote:
The thread is dead; I won't spend the time answering your comment in your post.

If only we could believe that.

This thread was dead right from your first argumentative post.

If I had any respect for you I would find your characterization of me as an uncaring person willing to see children choke to death to sell DVDs deeply offensive. But everyone reading these silly pages will know I have not pushed my DVD or book here. Not only have I not pushed them, I have not mentioned them.

Why don't you do us all a favour and let this drop?


Tony;

As usual I don't think you understand so let me go through it slowly and I may have to repeat myself.

First off, My characterization of you as an uncaring person willing to see children choke to death is right on and accurate, as long as the balloon was not handed over by a balloon twister .

Secondly, This is my thread, you have posted in it and killed it with your constant arguing and misinforming everyone with your lack of tact and knowledge.

Lastly I really don't know how you can tell me you have never advertised your DVD on the Café; pasted below are two threads where you blatantly and shamefully advertise your balloon swallowing DVD and book that you just posted in your feeble attempt to discredit me that you have never pushed, mentioned or advertised on the Café.

Tony; on the Café, you have no credibility.

No one can believe anything you say because of exactly what you have just lied about to make your point

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......forum=17

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......orum=181

BTW I can hear the squeaky wheels turning in your head now, you plan to search the Café to see if I have advertised my products.

if you look deep enough, you will find on the Café threads where I have discussed my ring in gumball machine illusion and my tools for the card splitting DVD.

The difference is, I NEVER said I do not talk about my creations on the Café, so save your time.

The bottom line is you are willing to minimize the danger of chocking on a balloon and seeing children choke to death to sell your balloon swallowing DVD
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My characterization of you as an uncaring person willing to see children choke to death is right on and accurate, as long as the balloon was not handed over by a balloon twister .

Howie, you really are an insufferable troll.

Try rereading. I said I had not used this thread to push my DVD. I haven't. You resurrect two old threads, where people ask for specific information and I give it. That is 'magicians helping magicians'. In one of those threads I actually mentioned someone else's DVD (Justin Meitz). Kind of destroys your point about me using this site to push dangerous tricks, doesn't it?

Over the years many people have PMed me for information on balloon swallowing. In each case I have supplied the information, often copying and pasting the entire contents of my book on the subject, and have never once told them to buy the book or DVD. I give out the information freely.

In common with every other balloon worker here I have never placed a child in danger, and would never believe it is okey to do that to make a quick buck. You owe us all an apology. But we won't hold our breaths. We know you and apologies. You never apologise, just invent crazy stories about computers being hacked. Some of us have long memories here.
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I can say with all honesty that I actually have TonyB's magic book. It is wonderful and I read it a lot. I've gotten some great ideas from it.

I don't do the balloon swallow myself, but use some of the patter ideas and gags from his routine in my own silly balloon routine in my shows. I found it on Amazon and highly recommend it.

One good thing I like about TonyB is he is not pushy with his products, and he also has some great insights into entertaining children.

I'm too busy doing shows and laughing my guts out at this thread to be bothered to answer Mr. Buzz "Howie" Lawrence. Honestly, trust me...I'm having a real good belly laugh.
Al Kazam --> Magic guy in Perth Australia
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On Nov 12, 2015, Al Kazam the Magic Man wrote:
I can say with all honesty that I actually have TonyB's magic book. It is wonderful and I read it a lot. I've gotten some great ideas from it.

I don't do the balloon swallow myself, but use some of the patter ideas and gags from his routine in my own silly balloon routine in my shows. I found it on Amazon and highly recommend it.

One good thing I like about TonyB is he is not pushy with his products, and he also has some great insights into entertaining children.

I'm too busy doing shows and laughing my guts out at this thread to be bothered to answer Mr. Buzz "Howie" Lawrence. Honestly, trust me...I'm having a real good belly laugh.


Your laugh is the nervous laugh of a man caught in his own lies.

First. I can't find one positive feedback on the entire internet about your shows; you say you are the "best entertainer in Perth", that's a lie, so telling us you get a lot out of Tony's book is also a lie.

Second you did not reply to the question of why you lie on your website and have made claims that are not true; the answer is that in real life you're a second rate hack with no talent or credibility.

Third, it's not how good Tony's books and videos are; it's that he also lied when he posted that he never mentioned his books and videos on the Café when it's proven that he has his advertisements all over the Café.

He lies, you lie, it is obvious that every time your fingers touch the keyboard, you are typing crap and lies and neither of you have an honest bone in your bodies and no one on the Café can trust what you say.
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Howie, when a child throws a temper tantrum the adults walk away.

Listen... you might be able to hear the footsteps... as we recede into the distance... laughing
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You mean you are really are not going to post here in the future😄

Caught in lies and you won't admit it Smile

You and your friend can go, we don't need lies and negative comments here

Never mentioned your DVD's on the Café... HA!

Go away with your lies
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we don't need lies and negative comments here

That's why we're walking away from you... still laughing
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Still trying to avoid the fact that you lied again

You laugh the laugh of a man coughs in his own web of lies

You post that you have never mentioned your DVD's on the Café and you were cought

You would not care if a child chokes to death as long as you can profit and sell your DVD's

You're trying to change the subject and tell us you're walking. away; the truth is you are ashamed of yourself

Both you and that other second rate hack Al Kazam AKA jojo the clown are both clowns in real life
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You still here, Howie? You promised a page ago that you would not post here again. Guess that was a lie so? Caught you.
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Really getting desperate

You have twisted the truth again in your post

Tell us why you posted that you never mentioned your sales of DVD' and books when you have posted shameless advertisements?
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The more you post the more you prove your promise not to post was a lie. Just like your 'voted best ventriloquist in San Francisco'. I googled it and never found the vote. Just like your claim that your computer was hacked when you were asked to apologize for past transgressions.

Howie you owe every balloon twister here an apology. It's a shame you don't have the class to realize that.
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Howie's trying hard to dissuade entertainers from using balloons. He cites it as hazardous. The statistics seem to prove otherwise. His alternative is to use a bunny. He tells us no child has died from coming into contact with a bunny. The statistics seem to prove Howie correct with this assumption. However, in the best interest of our famous furry friends, the bunny, HOW safe is using them in a show? With children present? How many poor little bundles fur have lost their innocent lives in the line of duty? Howie have you thought of what you're putting your pet though. Stress, anxiety, worse yet POTENTIAL death!!!! I've never seen a balloon sculpture die in the line of duty. Oh sure the occasional dog, cat or giraffe pops prematurely. This is usually the result of a pre-existing condition. Here's some reading for you Howie:
http://hubpages.com/animals/What-Are-The......-Rabbits Of note in this article : Injured during improper handling by children. and Fear-related heart attack.

Howie, you'd better change your ways or you may find yourself on this list: http://sebreg.deviantart.com/art/Death-Rabbit-184773016

All in fun of course. Carry on with the fun..............

John
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I think I've seen this happen before. Need to take a big breath Howie.

For everyone's viewing pleasure I present to you:

http://kids-magic.com/video.php

I'll be the first to admit that the video clip on my site is pretty crap. It's from 8 years back and my current show is quite different.

To clarify a little thing.....I got TonyB's book on magic from a recommendation from another well known magician that seems to get himself banned from every place he visits.
Al Kazam --> Magic guy in Perth Australia
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To clarify a little thing.....I got TonyB's book on magic from a recommendation from another well known magician that seems to get himself banned from every place he visits.

I am so glad I didn't recommend it to you!
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I'll just chime in quickly to say I was pointed in TonyB's direction by another magician and I purchased his DVD which is excellent. I have got some great things from it that I use regularly. Additionally, I'm also well aware of Al's work and he is top notch, he's been a pro for many, many years and does a brilliant show. That's the truth.

Now Howie, I suggest you let it go, step away from the computer, go and remove your mildly distressed rabbit from whatever cramped box or compartment you've got him in, make yourself a cuppa, sit down, relax and keep telling yourself that animals like to be shoved into small boxes because in the wild they live in burrows. That will make you (and all of us) feel a lot better...except of course the rabbit, he'll probably still resent you.

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Zuke,

I could see you are friends of Al and Tony, that does not bode well for you.

You are a puppet of the other two morons I am dealing with now, so from here on in I'll just ignore you
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John Martin;

I can't tell if you are just posting here in the thread to add to the conversation, or you are also friends of Al and Tony, so until I see how you discuss the subject with me, I will respect you as a professional

My Rabbit is healthy; I have the necessary USDA permits to use a rabbit in a magic show; the USDA requires that the rabbit be looked at by a vet every year before the permit is renewed, so the rabbit has a physical every year.

I actually own two rabbits, one for my show and the other rabbit to keep each other company, both are thriving.

The rabbit is produced from a livestock cage not a box which affords the rabbit plenty of air and space; the rabbit is of course fed daily and the rabbits extra large cage is cleaned every other day.

The show ends with the rabbit appearing and the children are lined up to pet the rabbit while the rabbit is being held in a lap by one of the female parents attending the show; I instruct the mom to hold the head and not allow the children to pet the rabbit on its head to protect the eyes.

The children are instructed to pet the rabbit lightly using two fingers only.



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