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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
There is no evidence in that clip...its a display, a demonstration becomes evidence after it is tested and proven to create consistent, measurable outcomes...
The dr's paper will be interesting I'm sure...
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
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On Nov 10, 2015, Atlas wrote: Just ordered this from Amazon. Sounds funny!
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
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On Nov 10, 2015, IAIN wrote: The clip IS evidence. The burden to disprove it is YOURS! This is the fallacy of pseudo-skepticism. They demonstrated their paranormal event. It's up to YOU to prove they were cheating in some way if that is your stance. Knock yourself out!
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
Nope. Its a display, its not proof. Look up the word.
noun 1.evidence or argument establishing a fact or the truth of a statement There is nothing factual about it at the moment.
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
In case slim has forgotten it...
Point 8 at very least... https://www.pinterest.com/pin/437482551282027133/
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jcigam Special user Bellevue, Nebraska 512 Posts |
The burden of proof lies on the person making the extraordinary claim. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. This is science 101.
"The mind has exactly the same power as the hand, not merely to grasp the world, but to change it."
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
I agree 100%!!! You are claiming they are cheating ... So prove it. I doubt your claim. The burden of proof is NOT on me .. I DOUBT YOUR CLAIM that they are cheating. The burden of proof is on YOU!!!!
Did you catch them cheating?
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
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On Nov 10, 2015, jcigam wrote: Link please ...ROTFLMAO ... You claim they are cheating ... Let's see your evidence!
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
Slim, are claiming that if someone provides a video of them doing something, and they claim they are not cheating and are serious about it - are you saying its enough proof?
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jcigam Special user Bellevue, Nebraska 512 Posts |
Slim King, given the world we live in. If someone says, "I don't believe you're psychic", that isn't an extraordinary claim, it's just an ordinary everyday claim. The video isn't scientific evidence of anything, it's the extraordinary claim.
"The mind has exactly the same power as the hand, not merely to grasp the world, but to change it."
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jcigam Special user Bellevue, Nebraska 512 Posts |
I love to debate but in this case, if anyone bothers to pursue this claim using actual scientifically stringent testing, I'm sure we'll find, as we do with every other claim of this nature, that there is no effect here.
"The mind has exactly the same power as the hand, not merely to grasp the world, but to change it."
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
Here's that fallacy in your attempt at logic. There is a claim. It is proven or disproven. The word "extraordinary" is a relative term. Who decides what is ordinary and what is not? This is an attempt to move the goal posts of logic. If science is 100% fair there should only be one standard, NOT TWO!!!!
This double standard idea leads me to believe that you have fallen for the pseudo-skeptic trap.
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
Quote: On Nov 10, 2015, IAIN wrote:
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
When something is presented, as a TRUE SKEPTIC, I may have my doubts. But if I claim they are cheating, then the proof has shifted to ME to prove my claim.
So if you claim they are cheating...then the proof is on YOU to PROVE it ... Rule number 8!!!!!!!
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
So you have no doubts over this? Can you say why?
And you've misunderstood rule 8
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jstreiff Special user 701 Posts |
"The mind has exactly the same power as the hand, not merely to grasp the world, but to change it."
Might be wise to think about the above wisdom. In many ways a closed mind is about as effective as a closed hand.
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
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On Nov 8, 2015, jcigam wrote: You claim there is ZERO EVIDENCE ... So prove it!!!!!!
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jcigam Special user Bellevue, Nebraska 512 Posts |
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On Nov 10, 2015, jstreiff wrote: I like and agree with your rephrasing of that quote. Having an open mind isn't about accepting everything. I have an open mind but I use a healthy amount of critical thinking to ensure my brain doesn't fall out.
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
Dogmatic denial is NOT critical thinking ...
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
I'm going to predict....
Hmmmm 9 pages worth... Lets learn from the past
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