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On Aug 1, 2016, Pop Haydn wrote:
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On Mar 9, 2016, griffindance wrote:

Acts of the caliber of Pop Haydn are the minimum level to expect of a performer.


Really? Smile I'm glad after 50 years I've made it to the minimum level... [/quote]

Yeah, at a minimum you have to reach up to this level!!!!
Dear Pop, While your shows and style represent a great goal for all performers to look up and try to reach, I would hope that other magician still get out and perform to the best of their abilities.I think the above post was just a mismanagement of wording. You are definitely at the upper level of performance quality and not minimal.
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To the OP: Jim Mullen has some GREAT advice for show routining guide. I also found Dan Harlans Tarbell 34 "routining a show" very helpful too. It also comes with his notes and worksheets.
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These are my notes on Creating the Magic Routine and Acting and Magic:

http://www.popsmagic.com/store/p65/Creat......oad.html

http://www.popsmagic.com/store/p66/On_Ac......oad.html
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On Aug 1, 2016, Pop Haydn wrote:
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On Mar 9, 2016, griffindance wrote:

Acts of the caliber of Pop Haydn are the minimum level to expect of a performer.


Really? Smile I'm glad after 50 years I've made it to the minimum level...

I maintain that one should create the character and backstory around the magic effects that appeal most to you. Change the character as needed to support the magic. Magic is not a special effect or mere transitional device. Magic does not support your character, your character supports the magic. If you are doing magic and not theater, the magic has to come first. Theater and story are only there to support strong magic. They are not central as in normal theater.

This isn't a rule. It is just a viewpoint. In my work, the magic is always central, and the character, costume, and backstory can be changed to suit whatever magic I want to perform. That is largely how my character was created--I kept changing the character and story to accommodate the effects I wanted to present. He was originally just a gambler. I kept adding to his story as I kept introducing effects I wanted to do. Why would a gambler do the Linking Rings? Why would a Western gambler wear a turban and read crystal balls? Why would a gambler have a teleportation device and a Tesla Coil?

Finally, magic is not about "telling" a story. It is about enacting a story that involves the audience as characters in the story. The story is what happens to them in the show--what they witnessed at the event. The audience members are all witnesses to the events in the story, and some are actual participants. It is like the magician is the lead actor and the audience and volunteers are co-actors, following his lead. The "story" is the story of the experience--what they will say they saw afterwards.


Hmmmm... Interesting take. Until recently we would have been in disagreement, but the more I've been working at the House of Cards (Magic Castle lite) the more I've gravitated to this idea. I am basically now performing two completely different shows:
1) Magic that is the story or supported by my backstory
2) a true narrative theater show that features very little magic and that is used specifically to reveal character of solve a problem in the story.

At one time I would have said only #2 was acceptable, but as I perform more in non theater venues I am forced to develop or revise material that is not reliant on a narrative story.
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By the way, if anyone is interested in a narrative show, I'm your guru. Smile
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