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BeThePlunk, I'm 68 as well, and I still buy my rope from an old and established magic manufacturer and store, called Abbott's Magic. They sell the real magicians rope as used by myself and many magician for years.

This is real Magicians Rope, cored and very pliable, to work well for use in rope tricks.

http://www.abbottmagic.com/Rope-216-Foot......oryId=-1

http://www.abbottmagic.com/Rope-300-ft-1......oryId=-1

Don't want the core, simply pull the 3 cotton strings out and you have a coreless sheath only.

Yes, it is off white, not bleached, the real color off cotton rope.

All other rope is modern alternatives that I found don't work as well as the original cotton rope. Money wasted for me.

Buy the other offerings at your own risk.


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Abbott's is a good supplier of rope. The can sell a how spool. They have 2 sizes. This is where I buy my rope for C & R effects.

I find the stuff at Wal-Mart and such have paint on them and sometime wire or nylon running thru the center.

You can use the fraying to your advantage, I seen an English magician Paul Daniels fray the ends of his Professor Nightmare rope and it looked very good on stage.

With magician rope use Elmers Glue. Just dip it into the bottle and hang it over a chair to let dry, you can form a nice end by using your fingers to form a nice round end. After it is dry, trim off the little pointed tail with a razor blade. I do this in the kitchen near the sink so I can rinse off my fingers as the glue guilds up.

Nylon can be melted. You have to be quick or the material will turn black.


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Thank you, Gents. I'll look into those resources.
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On Nov 14, 2015, Dick Oslund wrote:
OK Plunk (and anyone else on this "party line") I've kept you waiting long enough.

I published this in my book, with "history". Here are just the basic instructions:

1. Trim off end(s) of the rope.

2. Pull out about 3/4" of the core "yarns", cut off and save in small box labeled, "Pieces of rope too short to use")

4. I like to use a nail file to: Tuck the sheath ends into the space left when you removed core. This may require at least a minute!

5. Now, do other end. Disregard #5 if you have already realized this.

6. When all ends are tucked, roll the ends between fingers to "set" the tucks.

7. Some like to add a drop of white glue to the space left from core removal, BEFORE tucking. I've never found this necessary.

I made up two sets for Professor's Nightmare about 15 years ago. (Always had "back ups" in spare props case.) About a year ago, being retired, I cleaned out the spare props case, and gave the extra set to Anand Khalsa.

The END!


I have used the "tuck" method for about 30 years. (That's somewhere betweem 10,000 and 12,000 shows. I NEVER had to use glue. The ends stayed tucked! If a strand of the sheath had worked, even slightly loose, I could easily have retucked it.

I washed, for example, my "Nightmare" ropes and, my "One-Two-One" rope when I did the weekly laundromat visit on the road. I'm still using them.

If you just bought stock in the ELMERS GLUE COMPANY, I suppose that you could use glue if you want to. However, it'a an unnecessary step. I don't bother to separate the strands of the sheath either
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The tuck method is what I use exclusively. Quick, easy, looks great, and lasts as long as you need.
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Thanks very much for the education, all. Let's leave it at that.
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I left it at that, months ago! You keep coming back to take a bow!
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I bought some "end of your rope solution" at a magic shop. Great stuff. Had lightly dipped the ends in glue before. This stuff works better. Very clean.
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Hi jc!

Interesting!!! I hadn't heard of "end of your rope solution", but, I hadn't been looking for a solution!!!

I've been tucking in the ends of rope for about 40 years, and, it works!

It takes about 2 minutes per end.

I wrote up the procedure above.
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Thanks do.
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Yer welcome~!
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Super old thread, but I think the info is still relevant.

Here is a video I made of this.

https://youtu.be/BUmg8-q4a5I
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Nice work on the video!
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On Jul 9, 2021, scenic effects wrote:
Nice work on the video!


Thanks for the encouragement Smile
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Yes, Yin Howe, great video! I've used white glue before but never the (much better) glue then cut technique you demonstrate. Thanks!
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On Aug 25, 2021, stevevoltz wrote:
Yes, Yin Howe, great video! I've used white glue before but never the (much better) glue then cut technique you demonstrate. Thanks!

Thank you. Glad it helped.
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Yes yin_howe, the video is very informative and quite valuable to a rope worker.

Perfectly done with to the point, spot on visuals.

Excellent job!
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I have used dozens of methods to finish the ends of different types of ropes. Yes, traditional “Magician’s Rope” is a kernmantle construction which just means it has a sheath and a core. If you’re doing C&R you can remove the core and the sheath will retain most of the thickness of the rope but will be much easier to cut.

For Professors Nightmare, I have been using 1/2” Solid Braid Nylon Rope for decades. It shows up better for the larger crowds I work with and it is VERY durable when being examined. It also has the benefit of being an actual rope they might recognize from the hardware store lending to it’s credibility. Virtually NO ONE has ever seen magician’s rope anywhere. The nylon is much better for the sliding moves. Magician’s Rope has a rougher finish and will wear out sooner.

The Nylon also has the advantage of being able to be cut with a hot knife which seals the ends at the same time. I usually make up a few sets at the same time and they easily last for over a decade under heavy usage..
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I do a variation of the tuck method. I cut an inch and a half from the core and pinch the sheath in a pair of tweezers and push it into the rope. I then stitch the end, leaving the thread knot on the inside and running a few stitches, knotting on the inside of the tucked end.
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